From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: compiled lisp file format (Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file) Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 12:02:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8A8DA980-13A7-4F8B-9D07-391728C673C9@raeburn.org> <83inmq53xk.fsf@gnu.org> <96D35768-314C-43F5-BD5E-B12187759DCA@raeburn.org> <123104DD-447F-4CDB-B3A0-CED80E3AC8C9@raeburn.org> <20170403165736.GA2851@acm> <2497A2D5-FDB1-47FF-AED3-FD4ABE2FE144@raeburn.org> <83lgrhpalq.fsf@gnu.org> <0D99B4FE-FEEF-4565-87D6-E230A05DEF3C@raeburn.org> <86lgrc4vob.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <834ly0oew1.fsf@gnu.org> <968E8F50-92F6-43C7-B7E4-EE8378943087@raeburn.org> <83wpawmj4d.fsf@gnu.org> <1e397033-8291-1625-8b78-a1e1c200aea5@gmail.com> <18196f08-408d-8b17-423e-8be54507bb84@gmail.com> <8360hkkcgj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1495382721 11903 195.159.176.226 (21 May 2017 16:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 16:05:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/25.2 (darwin) Cc: Emacs developers To: Ken Raeburn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 21 18:05:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dCTM2-0002tn-PM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2017 18:05:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dCTM6-00039f-J9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2017 12:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dCTJo-000289-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2017 12:02:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dCTJk-0003bI-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2017 12:02:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]:33835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dCTJk-0003at-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2017 12:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id k74so90689937qke.1 for ; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=ky6digDwIlVZSkB1us/3FCHffbRmqhO7aiunQYWXK00=; b=Lq7eiR0Q63o7/hE9Lu40rtL6tCTxF461Dz1b7taSpv9ubjcLn5uj5wOXiFhr778L4p f+9X9Xao5XnthG3yZEBFqCEsRr/CqxDjHvNrPswmPDktQoKHqnsqXpqEo687SFvVW68f WlqrAC86iVmh4L8WKS3N5VpSWQYZL3e/dC0taVMKRA5tCRMhyu3QLAMgav/4BvnqsWZu MQaSGRjg8BZJWMvCUm9Ha1cvKw7JKMnQ5Buu5YphSHXRN9eJrXCw3CEsvCBVPXTS4ebx hje8PrY84fm7FGGc9y5fkxCmSoT6Kbf4RMWQPUC+fdCuu8NRphHNaN2aCQ4kRLEupSvd 1xog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=ky6digDwIlVZSkB1us/3FCHffbRmqhO7aiunQYWXK00=; b=c1jSdvzYHG8hI1uQQKM5ozia2nyP2GRE1HULzziz9WMw0C83bJBwqSz5zxS9l4xGJN JUbQrGpwLpqo/A9EZNb1ozlBbwb4FATF6a/OESeeTApPBcBxxJVWydS0Xa1WlwPbzqdn 88AdT1nb0JYNBG5fhnhWlk5pxx7YTDEQubjvdmzCIbmKHzFtjp3HvmGjdLk1rHbKAs9g dyPRLNUhe2++1lQhSNmfuXkbHWv5zymp5U/iv/KiNapxGQHB+G/8YM2H5lzvhgfWW1lk Ojwoj57mNhs6kRY7hXyu2QIeelEQQ67vAoWqLU7tYf5h/VA2ajzO2/wZA3iFY+Y6bs4z KmOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDOq818iNEjEdakA8O/ZTpiRAb72neYoM719UhcsfcCNQupm5Kk 1j29iFe5rDieEDIJOpU= X-Received: by 10.55.39.148 with SMTP id n142mr16827580qkn.223.1495382571739; Sun, 21 May 2017 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local ([204.148.41.102]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l79sm5170990qke.9.2017.05.21.09.02.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 May 2017 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A99BC1909393; Sun, 21 May 2017 12:02:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Ken Raeburn's message of "Sun, 21 May 2017 04:44:01 -0400") Mail-Followup-To: Ken Raeburn , Emacs developers X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215053 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "KR" =3D=3D Ken Raeburn writes: KR> I haven=E2=80=99t had much time to further the work on the big-elc appr= oach KR> recently, but there is one idea I want to toss out there for possibly KR> improving the load time further: Changing the .elc file format to a bin= ary KR> one. I=E2=80=99m not talking about a memory image like Daniel is workin= g on. I KR> mean a file representing a sequence of S-expressions, but optimized for KR> loading speed rather than for human readability. I would like to see this; I can't think of a reason not to encode the information in the best format for loading. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEE3lW3afxXihSlvlQwwUTY9PGf5jAFAlkhuh0ACgkQwUTY9PGf 5jBBZQv/RWUuOaTvVhVf0YGO2o8pVTwg6+mZUOAVx0Ogt5YChYLvQTJnktNas5ZV D0zntGiqNoM00a8TNPj5aeCWR2XLh3NMTbdNR9Uk0SbmZN2WpeTSlL8zmMTzZGuP jR8uFOyKzpHROz/ceJQ2Iaa53ac7OaBrFUJHG4HbzsCvMzth0V6u16RXHkYFXDnY 6PffHwxWvFxIwPqp/tRhpOIj0izgrV5CngV892Ysp1+QG29uTOLN8wHdsb1qb2g2 oAmCDsbAFjKVkhe0ZNoL7wIdpyGGjaaXiwgvbubnPCrV3N6S662l7xVSNZvge0uM NVNxCkwjtFefWsvwQwaXGUJDMv+FZ0dNvnnhCO8958nnnf5pE/gNMp5PTcAUNDMb qKOpi+w38Kdb1UzBRSwZ9EAfFRo0ccOk1HkAUE4IDhlJP4FQRk9pXig9637DUM0B Ljzes2llaDUN8gJnfduhawQ1ZVKhw+yQgsAYFNXKvn1v5zLM1Qztg5qJb/1IFUCi GBOYpVdR =iSDi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--