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[217.227.106.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p5-20020a170906498500b0078b83968ad4sm14844355eju.24.2022.10.23.21.17.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 23 Oct 2022 21:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 23 Oct 2022 15:14:04 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::536; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x536.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298320 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > CL packages are the wrong way to implement packages in Lisp. > As I explained in a discussion two years ago, packages implemented > using obarrays (or equivalent) don't work reliably. I can't find your explanation. Do you have a pointer? > We have a much better basis for Lisp packages > in the shorthands mechanism. It only needs to be completed. Can you point me to a full design? I've read the Elisp info page and the sources.