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[217.227.111.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a7dc9c0c58esm509452666b.86.2024.08.05.20.29.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 05 Aug 2024 20:29:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Alan Third's message of "Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:01:19 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:289812 Archived-At: Alan Third writes: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 09:46:09PM +0200, Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd wrote: >> > correctly, then the property exists in older versions but is just >> > not exposed -- is that a correct interpretation? >>=20 >> I can answer that partially from an experiment: yes, [self >> respondsToSelector:@selector(setClipsToBounds:)] returns true on an >> older version. > > You may be running the latest version of xcode? IIRC that can affect > what's available. The whole thing is confusing. Thanks Alan. I find it highly confusing, too. Anyway, Mattias' #if worss here.=20