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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Question about üarent-frame changes
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:03:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m28qvp9f7d.fsf@MacBookPro.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bc2af0a-d3c1-4ba6-a350-af6e2b85695d@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:15:56 +0200")

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> AFAICT from the Elisp Info docs, one is currently free to change the
>> parent-frame as one sees fit. That is, one can make a child a root
>> frame, a root frame a child, or change the parent of a child to another
>> root.
>>
>> I'm currently inclined to disallow parent-frame changes on ttys
>> entirely, unless it is used for something. Couldn't find something
>> today, but maybe something is a package outside Emacs' repo, or I'm just
>> ont looking for the right thing.
>
> I'm not aware of people using multiple frames on TTYs and I have no idea
> whether child frames out there are even intended to be reparented.

Ok, thanks. I'm using mulitple frames sometimes, but in the end seem to
99% end up using tabs (C-x t 2 etc), like on GUI.

> Reparenting is useful because you can set up one child frame for some
> special purpose, make it invisible when you don't need it, and move it
> to another frame and make it visible there whenever you want to.  On
> GUIs, this approach has the advantage that you can avoid the (at least
> here) costly process of setting up frame faces every time anew.  

Hm, that might indeed be an interesting optimization.

> Emacs tooltips do that by default and I recall that showing a tooltip
> every time incurred two entire GC cycles here.

(Oh, hadn't thought of tooltips on ttys yet. New entry in my list :-).)

So I guess I'll keep at least the option of re-parenting child frames to
another root frame open, until I know more about how fast that all
turns out to be. If I had to guess, face realization on ttys could well
be faster than on GUIs because all the font stuff doesn't have to be
done.

But I'll disable to root <-> child transformation. That feels abit
esoteric.

Thanks!



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-18 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-18 10:58 Question about üarent-frame changes Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-18 14:15 ` martin rudalics
2024-09-18 14:24   ` Ship Mints
2024-09-18 18:51     ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19  5:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  8:10         ` martin rudalics
2024-09-18 14:26   ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-18 14:30     ` Ship Mints
2024-09-18 15:26       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-18 15:32         ` Ship Mints
2024-09-18 15:22     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-25 10:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-25 11:13         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-25 14:04           ` martin rudalics
2024-09-25 14:38             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-25 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-25 18:10             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-26  4:54               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-26  5:01                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-26  6:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26  6:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-28  9:10           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-18 18:51     ` martin rudalics
2024-09-18 15:03   ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-09-18 16:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 16:42       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-18 16:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 18:52     ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19  0:33       ` Po Lu
2024-09-19  8:08         ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19  4:29       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-19  8:09         ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19  9:15           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-19  9:40             ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19 10:10               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-19 11:13                 ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19 12:49                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-19  4:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  8:10         ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19  8:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  8:41             ` Po Lu
2024-09-19 10:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 11:13                 ` martin rudalics
2024-09-19 11:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  9:26           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-09-19 13:46             ` Po Lu

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