From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>
Cc: peterb@kenny.sha-bang.de, rms@kenny.sha-bang.de,
Daiki Ueno <ueno@unixuser.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
Subject: Re: pgg-encrypt is a pain in the neck
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:41:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27iw9jhni.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1H0isT-0007ZM-NI@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 30 Dec 2006 13\:24\:17 -0500")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
Hi Richard,
[...]
> This is not an adequate replacement for mailcrypt, not as it currently
> works. We need to fix it now.
AFAIK pgg was never meant to be a replacement for mailcrypt on its
own. It was included with gnus and together with it (more specific:
message mode using MML) it builds a full blown, easy to use, mail
encryption tool -- but pgg one is not capable of much more than
en-/decrypting text using a OpenPGP backend (mostly GnuPG).
> One way to fix pgg-encrypt would be to give it heuristics like the
> ones mailcrypt-encrypt uses. Another would be to declare pgg-encrypt
> to be a "low level" interface, reliable for programs with no DWIM, and
> define a different command for users to encrypt their messages.
PGG is rather "low level" in context of mail encryption, but please
bear in mind, that there are other uses for GnuPG: You can encrypt
other private or confidential stuff just to keep it safe without
sending it per mail, and that's where the currently available user
functions come in handy.
I agree, that a more generic solution might be worthwhile, but I don't
think that pgg is "broke" or needs to be "fixed" in this regard.
Btw. I think one source of this problem is that we currently have two
(or more?) mail composition modes in Emacs: message mode coming from
gnus and mail mode. I'm quite certain, that there are more features
besides encryption which are only available in one of them.
Disclaimer, this is not intended to be a flame bait. ;-)
cheers
sascha
--
Sascha Wilde : VI is to EMACS as masturbation is to making love:
: effective and always available but probably not your
: first choice...
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Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-13 18:41 Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Reiner Steib
2007-06-13 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 21:47 ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-13 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 22:41 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-13 23:22 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-14 6:31 ` Emacs 23 development policy (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Reiner Steib
2007-06-14 7:25 ` David Reitter
2007-06-14 13:42 ` Adrian Robert
2007-06-14 19:56 ` Emacs 23 development policy Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14 16:20 ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 16:27 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-15 0:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-15 2:03 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-15 3:14 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-15 2:35 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-15 19:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 21:48 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-16 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 19:23 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-16 19:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17 8:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-17 19:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17 8:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 1:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-18 21:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19 5:01 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-19 5:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20 13:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-20 17:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 22:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 12:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 13:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 14:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 17:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 13:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-06-16 14:16 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17 23:07 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-18 3:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18 5:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18 6:01 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-18 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18 21:12 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-19 22:25 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18 21:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 6:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-18 7:24 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18 8:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-18 8:50 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 0:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-19 5:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 5:37 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-19 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 17:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-19 5:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-19 2:19 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-19 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-23 8:13 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-06-16 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 14:22 ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-16 14:37 ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model David Kastrup
2007-06-16 16:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-16 16:41 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 17:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-07-01 20:40 ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 19:21 ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 16:48 ` Jay Belanger
2007-06-17 13:47 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-09 2:22 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-09 17:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-10 10:33 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-10 12:19 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-10 15:51 ` Leo
2007-07-10 20:05 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-16 2:58 ` [bug] PGG shows ?? when prompt for passphrase Leo
2006-12-17 1:30 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17 2:18 ` Leo
2006-12-17 3:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17 4:18 ` Leo
2006-12-17 4:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17 5:27 ` Leo
2006-12-18 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-18 1:34 ` Daiki Ueno
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2006-12-19 23:55 ` Daiki Ueno
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2006-12-30 18:24 ` pgg-encrypt is a pain in the neck Richard Stallman
2006-12-30 19:41 ` Sascha Wilde [this message]
2006-12-31 1:02 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 12:27 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-12-31 14:07 ` Reiner Steib
2006-12-31 14:38 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-31 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-31 12:54 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-12-31 14:13 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02 0:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-01-02 16:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02 19:53 ` Reiner Steib
2006-12-31 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02 18:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-31 1:46 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1H0Juj-0005YY-RU@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-07-10 22:47 ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Daiki Ueno
2007-07-10 22:54 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-11 0:07 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11 21:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-10 21:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-11 2:25 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-11 21:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-11 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-11 3:43 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11 9:38 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-11 10:22 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11 21:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 8:38 ` Miles Bader
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