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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: ELPA and core services
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:12:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27guw76t3.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4t4zr9l@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:02:59 +0100 (BST)")

>>>>> Christopher Schmidt <christopher@ch.ristopher.com> writes:

> I do not agree with GNU ELPA not being applicable for core services.  I
> think every single package that is not absolutely necessary for running a
> bare Emacs should be moved to GNU ELPA.

Please, please no.  I use lots of Emacsen on lots of machines, and only a few
have my configuration copied over.  Please don't turn unconfigured Emacsen
into brain-dead zombies of little value.  I rely on the fact that Eshell
exists on every Windows machine that has Emacs.  And not all of these have a
network connection for me to even use ELPA, if that company's web proxy would
even allow it.

I think you may be considering this issue only from the
single-power-user-with-net-access point of view.

> On top of that, IMO every single core package should have a copy on GNU ELPA
> so one can to overwrite the native GNU Emacs one with the one from GNU ELPA.
> This would decouple all packages from the Emacs release cycle and allow bug
> fixes to be distributed instantly.

Now, this I agree with completely.  ELPA overrides is a great idea, and I
think it could accelerate development -- as long as inter-package version
dependencies are managed.  If the newest Gnus suddenly depends on the the
newest something-else, that something-else should be installed/updated along
with it automatically.

John



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-24 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m2hau86tfk.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found] ` <E1ShM8F-0006IY-L9@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <m2txy51z1k.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]     ` <E1ShiKM-0000Aa-5G@fencepost.gnu.org>
2012-06-21 21:23       ` async 1.0 John Wiegley
2012-06-22  7:00         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-06-22 10:54           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 12:39             ` Michael Albinus
2012-06-22 22:02               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-04 17:10                 ` Samuel Bronson
2012-07-05  4:09                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-05 19:58                     ` Samuel Bronson
     [not found]             ` <82d34r8ej9.fsf@gmail.com>
2012-06-22 21:50               ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23  1:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23  3:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23 16:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-06-23 21:08                   ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23 21:28                     ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-06-23 21:50                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-06-24 15:02                     ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-24 15:42                       ` Bastien
2012-06-24 21:01                       ` John Wiegley
2012-06-25 14:53                         ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-25 23:54                           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-24 21:12                       ` John Wiegley [this message]
2012-06-24 21:40                         ` ELPA and core services Lennart Borgman
2012-06-25  2:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-25  4:39                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-25  6:01                         ` Achim Gratz
2012-07-03 14:38                           ` Tom Tromey
2013-01-22 19:13                             ` Achim Gratz
2012-06-25  4:32                       ` stdlib for Emacs? [was: async 1.0] Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23  6:25                 ` async 1.0 Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23 21:05                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-01  8:16                   ` Michael Sperber
2012-06-22 11:38         ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-22 21:39           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 23:02             ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-23  7:46               ` zwz
2012-06-23 20:49                 ` Richard Stallman

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