From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Guido Van Hoecke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: shell-like Emacs CLI, and my Usenet behaviour Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:50:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eh9qpznc.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377107445 824 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 17:50:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 19:50:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCYP-0002GH-29 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:50:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55786 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCYO-0005E8-CJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33173) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCXw-0005D1-Te for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCXr-0006PL-I2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:50:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::231]:36273) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCXr-0006P4-CM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id d41so429455eek.22 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:50:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=FAs7D7mDWe4BSKDnd1kA32rK2Tz84S7kfkf+VbEqjnw=; b=L/Lz9r9uDdkm9u2RqOKHL4uAMk09IKEHv8L9qtVwl6OMGZMyPCqtmWiGLCNoHlYnBG Mxela7OzdCZYy7NRW6Su3VMlGVzYCfNElEy5S1+kXcdt5fhYQdxcJN69f1gLOfDaK5Uv 30Ubh84LkKvmRFWe0fDY4KDjPnmBljgLjb1zeU4YQTpEjMihfHTKMSwtePG9vu6Cp/xV 6wyzFTS2ZGQNI88Oz20vLPl5xj5l9iAlldFeAe4mDx1ztBPLxIc5jpmjmBJ5SYRJRUsd njqHOjMoP50b8s6H9Phaf7C/n/j2OvTiI+5fQTCsGNN44yzbHKpB2RZ9pR2OahaGeSpw MJUg== X-Received: by 10.15.94.201 with SMTP id bb49mr12231127eeb.23.1377107410095; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zac.local.vanhoecke.org (78-20-180-173.access.telenet.be. [78.20.180.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z12sm11468747eev.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:59:02 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c00::231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93037 Archived-At: Hi, Stefan Monnier writes: >> man emacs RET That's exactly how you type it with eshell. I probably have missed part of the conversation, and apologize if that's the case, but to me, there's no shell like eshell. You can mix external commands ane internal emacs commands, either self-made or the ones part of the distribution. Guido. > vs >> M-x man RET emacs RET > > I largely agree. > There's also > > M-: (man "emacs") RET > > You could easily make the surrounding parentheses implicit (or > pre-inserted), so that would be > > M-: man "emacs" RET > > So the main remaining problem is the quotes. > After all, for other functions, you'd want > > M-: describe-function 'car RET > > > -- Stefan