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From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Entering Unicode characters
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:59:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27fiiaqj0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8360y2t48k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:25:47 +0200")

On Sat, Feb 06 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> One aspect where some improvement is probably needed is when
> displaying large ranges of characters.  For example, select
> "Scripts->symbol" from the "Character-Browser" menu -- this displays
> all the punctuation characters defined by Unicode.  You get 160 lines
> that display something like 4K characters, which takes a long time to
> display (because Emacs looks for a suitable font), and somewhat hard
> to view.  Maybe we should display with those +/- widgets that allow
> showing and hiding portions of the characters, so that each 256
> characters could be shown or hidden separately?

Maybe. That's definitely more difficult to implement.  In general, there
is no way around that some sets are just big and that some people will
want see all characters.

Maybe some work could be done with "background" timers, e.g. insert 20
lines then wait a bit before starting the next timer and so on.

> Also, I think unassigned codepoints should not be shown, and the same
> for Surrogates and Private-Area codepoints.  They will never yield
> anything but those rectangles with a codepoint in hex inside them.

Not sure about this.  E.g. if somebody want to see an Unicode block he
may well want to see the range defined by the standard.  I also think
that some fonts do assign glyphs in private-use areas.  A part of the
high surrogates seems to be available for private-use as well.

However, using the same glyph for all unassigned codepoints might speed
up things a bit.

> Finally, I think a command to insert the character at point into
> another buffer would be a good addition.

It's not so easy to know where the charactor should be inserted.  Maybe
a marker could be used, but I suspect that that would be confusing.

I had implement a insert-char command that called the browser in a
recursive edit.  It worked but it definitely was confusing.

So my thinking is that the usual commands for copying a character to the
kill ring or copy&pasting it with the mouse is sufficient.

Helmut



  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-06 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-11  3:09 A proposal for removing obsolete packages Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-11 14:41 ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-11 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-12  4:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-19  5:28     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20  2:54       ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-20  7:25         ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 17:05           ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-20 17:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 19:52               ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:38                 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-20 20:46                   ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 21:03                     ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-21  3:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:22                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-21  3:02             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-23 21:15               ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-23 22:03                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24  1:02                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:08                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:56                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24 21:44                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25  2:37                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25  1:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-25  4:41                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25 15:37                     ` Entering Unicode characters Richard Stallman
2016-01-25 16:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:20                         ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-25 17:51                           ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-25 20:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26  1:24                             ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-26  3:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 18:59                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-25 19:28                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26  8:38                         ` Oleh Krehel
2016-01-25 21:36                       ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-25 22:17                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 22:26                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26  9:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:55                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-26 14:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26 14:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 21:41                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-27  3:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  6:01                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-28 23:16                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-29  8:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 15:51                                         ` handa
2016-01-29 16:14                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 16:24                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-01-30  3:03                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  7:36                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 12:16                                             ` handa
2016-01-30 13:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 11:31                           ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-27  0:46                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 12:40                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-26 15:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 17:08                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26 17:37                             ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26 18:08                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 18:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 11:56                           ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 12:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 13:59                               ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2016-02-06 14:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 11:20                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-07 18:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 18:42                               ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-08 14:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 14:25                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:18                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10  0:12                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 17:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 18:19                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 22:02                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 13:02                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 17:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 13:26                                       ` Dale Snell
2016-02-10  0:11                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  6:01                                   ` Alexis
2016-02-09 15:21                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  0:11                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  1:16                                         ` Alexis
2016-02-10 14:16                                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-11 18:59                                             ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                                       ` <<E1aTINY-0007Rg-IA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-10  2:07                                         ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  4:14                                           ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-10 14:15                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  0:08                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  4:17                                       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2016-02-08 14:18                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-12 11:32                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-13 15:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <<E1aO05V-0007eR-Kw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58                           ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 13:01                   ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26  9:36                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:30                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-27  0:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  1:03                           ` Alexis
2016-01-27 22:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  8:41                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<m2a8nu46ff.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <<E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-25 16:04                       ` Entering Unicode characters Drew Adams
2016-01-25 16:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 16:43                 ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages John Wiegley
2016-01-26 17:32                   ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03  4:45                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 21:49     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-14  5:19       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-17 22:53         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-14 23:09       ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-16  4:13         ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-16 19:10           ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-18 18:47             ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-19 13:51               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-19 14:54           ` Phillip Lord
     [not found] <<m28u3wak2g.fsf@gmail.com>

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