From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29586: Please revert change to package deletion Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:46:13 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512577181 23356 195.159.176.226 (6 Dec 2017 16:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:19:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (darwin) Cc: 29586@debbugs.gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 06 17:19:34 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMcPe-0001Nn-Dl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:19:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNrj-0003f1-2i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:47:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNre-0003ZL-1m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNra-0004hw-VO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNra-0004hl-Rj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNra-0002IB-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 00:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29586 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29586-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29586.15125211978781 (code B ref 29586); Wed, 06 Dec 2017 00:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29586) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2017 00:46:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48247 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNrB-0002HY-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57733) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNr8-0002HI-2O for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNr1-0004Mc-TW for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNqu-0004Jj-QR; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:20 -0500 Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:51869) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eMNqu-0001rD-IH; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:20 -0500 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2420AEF; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:46:18 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:46:18 -0500 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D766F24786; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:46:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Adam Porter's message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:20:52 -0600") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140746 Archived-At: >>>>> "AP" == Adam Porter writes: AP> The original bug report complained of, "cluttering the user's trash can." AP> This is a very poor justification for the change that was made, to claim AP> that the *trash can* is being cluttered. The trash can is the designated AP> receptacle for such clutter, and is designed to be emptied with a single AP> action. I cannot fathom real users lamenting that their *trash can* is AP> cluttered with *trash*. I tend to agree with Adam on this point. As a user, I'd prefer such things to accumulate in my trash so that I could undo them; I really don't care what's in the trash, just that's useful for undeleting things. Most operating systems provide ways to periodically tidy up the trash, so I'm somewhat surprised that a bug was issued to this fact. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2