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Mon, 12 Oct 2020 02:03:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lfgegur9.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> (unknown@unknown.invalid's message of "Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:55:54 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190305 Archived-At: (*sigh*, either gmane or bug-gnu-emacs or Gnus mangled the Reply-To header here) >>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:55:54 +0200, Unknown = said: Adam> Eli writes: >>>> It doesn't actually test for HarfBuzz availability, or did I miss >>>> that? >>>=20 >>> It doesn't - you have to choose the style yourself, by customizing = the >>> smiley-style variable. >>=20 >> How about adding that: the font-backend frame parameter should tell >> you if HarfBuzz is available. By looking for the substring 'hb' in it? Could we add something a little less icky, along the lines of 'libxml-available-p'? Adam> Do you mean removing the option if HarfBuzz isn't available? I don=CA=BCt think this is dependent on Harfbuzz, etc/NEWS.27: ** Multicolor fonts such as "Noto Color Emoji" can be displayed on Emacs configured with Cairo drawing and linked with cairo >=3D 1.16.0. (and on macOS, if explicitly requested) Adam> As far as I understand it, emoji can be displayed without, they j= ust Adam> won't have color? Which might be something that users without Har= fBuzz Adam> would like to be able to choose. Adam> (Having color emoji is just my motivation to make the patch.) They'd be displayed with whatever font Emacs found for them. >> Perhaps when HarfBuzz is being used, it should be the default? I >> don't use Gnus, but maybe such a new default will make sense to Gnus >> users? Adam> I think changing the default would be annoying to users, but I do= n't Adam> have any evidence in either direction. Maybe some users would con= sider Adam> it "modern" to change it. As a Gnus user I wouldn=CA=BCt object to it being the default, as long as there was a reasonable fallback for when those characters cannot be displayed. Robert --=20