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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311372 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 13:55:30 +0200 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> >> My hypothesis is that x-win.eln changes between builds (print-circle >> >> etc.) =3D> make-fingerprint computes a different ingerprint and so on. >> > >> > If x-win.el didn't change, x-win.eln will not be regenerated, so >> > something else is at work here. >>=20 >> But x-win.elc _did_ change. To cite one of Bj=C3=B6rn's mails > > If x-win.elc or x-win.eln change between builds (meaning x-win.el or > one of the *.el files it 'require's changed), why do we expect the > builds to be identical? AIAIU, the assumption that an .el file has changed doesn't hold. Instead, comp.el prints a constant list and produces a different $n=3D label in both cases. The diff of the .eln's shows that. If there are no further diffs in the .eln that weren't shown, everything else is identical.