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From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: wk@gnupg.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, miles@gnu.org,
	ueno@unixuser.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fix needed for communication with gpg-agent
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:41:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2649stpap.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HKibb-0000kX-WC@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 23 Feb 2007 17\:09\:31 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

>     I think this suggestion is based on a misunderstanding -- the security
>     problems in the current implementation (when not using gpg-agent) has
>     nothing to do with caching, it comes form the fact, that emacs writes
>     the the passphrase to an temporary file (which is then feed to gpg).
[...]
> If all we have to do is avoid passing it thru a temporary file,
> there must be lots of other ways to avoid that.  Could it be passed
> through a pipe or a socket?
>
> Someone says it already is:
[...]
> Does this mean the problem is already fixed?

Yes.  This problem was already solved (as said in another mail, I
forgot it was).

But there are still some more subtle security problems left, which
IIRC were discussed in the original thread, too:  If emacs caches the
passphrase there is no way to protect the passphrase from being
written to swap, when the system decides to swap out parts of emacs.

pgp-agent and pinentry on the other hand are trying hard to prevent
the passphrase from getting swaped out or written to hd by any other
means.

So in conclusion: the main security problem was solved, but it is
still preferable to use gpg-agent.

sascha
-- 
Sascha Wilde : VI is to EMACS as masturbation is to making love:
             : effective and always available but probably not your
             : first choice...

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-23 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-17 20:57 Fix needed for communication with gpg-agent Richard Stallman
2007-02-18 17:42 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-19 23:35   ` Miles Bader
2007-02-20  1:59     ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:31       ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:44         ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 18:04         ` Werner Koch
2007-02-22 18:40           ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 22:00             ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-22 22:47               ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 20:01                 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-24  8:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 22:09               ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:41                 ` Sascha Wilde [this message]
2007-02-25  4:06                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-25 19:32                     ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-25 19:50                       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-25 20:22                         ` David Kastrup
2007-02-26  3:27                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-26 10:27                         ` Werner Koch
2007-02-27  7:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-27  8:53                             ` Werner Koch
2007-02-28  2:37                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23  8:53             ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 10:27               ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-23 16:23               ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 16:47                 ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 19:37                   ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 20:10                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-23 22:10                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 22:09                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:03                     ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 17:13           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-02-23 18:30             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-23 18:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-24 14:08             ` Miles Bader
2007-02-23 19:35         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 13:43     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 15:35       ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-21  8:37         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-21 12:04           ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22 17:21             ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-20 15:11   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-20 15:45     ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-21  8:37     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-21 13:11       ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22  7:19         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <E1HJCsN-000541-DO@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-02-21 22:41     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-02-21 23:15       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22  0:14         ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-22  8:04           ` Werner Koch
2007-02-22 12:09           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-22  8:13         ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 10:22           ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 13:20             ` Werner Koch
2007-02-23 16:40               ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 22:09               ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 19:36           ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-23 23:25             ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-23 23:58               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-24  0:19                 ` Chong Yidong
2007-02-24  0:57                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-24  9:58                     ` Sascha Wilde

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