From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs.app dev]: issues with NextStep (Cocoa) port: epa-file and frequent crashes Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:06:09 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <94BDC600-C9C2-4686-94BA-2E1021D3CC53@tzi.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225715458 21865 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2008 12:30:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:30:58 +0000 (UTC) To: "Emacs App Dev" , Emacs Development Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 03 13:31:59 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kwyb5-0000Dd-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:31:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwyZy-0000Ry-Ve for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwyZs-0000NJ-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwyZq-0000HP-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57750 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwyZp-0000H5-P6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ip114.208-100-47.static.steadfast.net ([208.100.47.114]:57742 helo=mail.blockstar.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KwyZp-0004jk-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mungo (c-68-60-254-123.hsd1.il.comcast.net [68.60.254.123]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932343E002D; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:06:13 -0600 (CST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <94BDC600-C9C2-4686-94BA-2E1021D3CC53@tzi.org> (Carsten Bormann's message of "Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:40:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Greylist: delayed 1462 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at monty-python; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:30:35 EST X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105293 Archived-At: On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:40:34 +0100 Carsten Bormann wrote: CB> One problem that needs to be fixed is that fatal_error_signal/ CB> shut_down_emacs/ns_term_shutdown essentially hides the bugs -- when CB> Emacs runs into an abort(), this "cleans up" and makes sure there is CB> no trace of the bug anywhere. So we never find out what exactly hit CB> Emacs. I'd rather see a nice OSX crash report. Agreed. With a crash report we'd have something useful to report, otherwise we're just complaining. On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:13:21 +0100 Peter Dyballa wrote: PD> Am 02.11.2008 um 16:40 schrieb Carsten Bormann: >> Click on "Options" in the menu bar and Emacs is gone. PD> The yesterday compiled version on PPC and Tiger behaves better. It PD> seems only to have problems when invoked with arguments from the PD> command line and with key bindings. And yes: when return to Emacs.app PD> from another application and click into one window, the cursor stays PD> in the other window. No other Cocoa application behaves like Emacs.app! I'm happy to put work into finding the bugs if I knew how. The Intel version I compiled from CVS doesn't have the problem you report with key bindings and focus. Ted