From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:15:40 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> <80ACEDD7-86B4-4E7D-85F2-4308AB34837B@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343085348 25138 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2012 23:15:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:15:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 01:15:48 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1StRqt-0004oK-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:15:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47633 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StRqs-0000DY-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StRqq-0000DT-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StRqo-0005rH-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:43335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StRqo-0005rD-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so7190176ghr.0 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:organization:references:mail-followup-to :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qeyoj8tZpva2FwG4dkjLemGieA4p6fXTpMIYwCzHnjk=; b=GGdY5mB3Uhmh7bX0MxCefgK9PhDzCKRIooGfMWUj+D838det8iPLJiM3bjjj+cLBKe 6pSbxm9tiBSMCVI1WeeVDofHhJ0N19fX53/UMGTQotzcihRhE+2ckrkSCzwQwXqZiPKe rAAFwMZ6ztnFRGH3M5kiCuYSJ9yBpTpKIOmJRU8H2GdUNg2BFoCqzSQXYFfAB4v098dQ DlCjz2cgs2pzL3nuiTTlkQ+isvhymbeYyzDW7wJD6WwycRwd6XXkw57t0r3mfA5ODeOJ kx3Gm/96HjPdHgYmH9NI8fQtBsLbbEwQKp4hq9xFAf+xpRmhnX4a7aJf+K1QbIx7gE4n W0lA== Original-Received: by 10.42.84.16 with SMTP id j16mr9714977icl.7.1343085342049; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3sm550242igc.7.2012.07.23.16.15.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 84099F42DA68; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:15:40 -0500 (CDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <80ACEDD7-86B4-4E7D-85F2-4308AB34837B@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:46:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151835 Archived-At: >>>>> Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: >> We have an existing body of code that it seems no one is excited to main= tain, >> and a fork that at least one person is very eager to maintain. > Bugs do get fixed in the NS port. I use it on OSX every weekday (at work= ), > so I try to fix bugs. Others do too from time to time. In the last 6 > months or so, I'd say that the NS port has gotten as much attention as the > Gtk+ port. Granted that the NS-port may have had more problems to begin > with. But do we have a "leader" for the NS port, somebody in charge of that piece willing to drive it toward perfection? Fixing bugs as they come up is grea= t, but will only solve the problems for which there are reproducible bugs. Is= NS improving in other ways? Mac-port is gaining new capabilities with each release. It already had excellent fullscreen support, now it has swiping gestures and great scrolli= ng too. John