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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g74sm26294476pfj.1.2016.02.20.11.34.43 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:34:44 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: John Wiegley Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 69226130FB4DC; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:34:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0e46790f-faa7-4008-9c37-f46be709513b@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:40:29 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:113375 Archived-At: >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > Feel free to close this bug, if you don't care that Gnus respects the `M-s' > "convention" and #1 is most important. I filed the bug report based on an > Icicles user report. I filed it because of my understanding that `M-s' is > conventionally a search prefix key. Let's change the topic of this bug then, to be about whether M-s should be a reserved key to be respected by all modes or not, and therefore require an update to the Elisp convention. Lars, do you think this would be troublesome for Gnus? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2