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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b16sm2832131ywa.11.2016.09.01.17.24.20 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Sep 2016 17:24:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E8B89228C087; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:24:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 01 Sep 2016 16:27:02 -0400") Mail-Followup-To: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207106 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "GM" =3D=3D Glenn Morris writes: GM> It's now 3 days past the projected released date included in RC2. Yet GM> there continue to be (trivial) changes made to the emacs-25 branch. I GM> suggest absolutely forbidding all changes, making another RC with a 3 d= ay GM> timer, and then shoving the release out the door. Or if you feel braver, GM> just go straight to release. Changes that are purely documentational are no problem. They don't change = the purpose of the RC, and so we can accept them up until the very last moment, when Nicolas cut the final tarball and we ship it. Put another way: cutting an RC for doc changes cannot tell us anything new about the potential stability of the release. And so, *modulo documentation changes*, there have been no recent changes to emacs-25 that Eli did not de= em critical. Changes to *code* should absolutely not be happening now, unless there is enough justification to require pausing the release process and sending out another RC and another waiting period. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJXyMavAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwCmsMALnQrtMlgsRbWdAP+761S5/d Zy/316V+KQvDnIkxe0QEJxFN6AUOppsFMMYSv9gXRiUzVmOOP4I+p5oUPdL5B7/D ps1F4eYU+VKBpuonhl2PlgcQeP9ngEkgT28JmIPNLQtTPF1mVU8pwmyrihzmXM8g RueF6vDEtDlyUCxk/kmwpU4KIFDszlYxQ/pjjviQejRdvclfgslf9bxuVHKxtG8I tm5u8IEezaJr1+NMd76YlRA9MRby8jIoNXApduS/PdohsnFs7nh1LAjt2oyPyLZ7 7/KAHh+Q4+R9Qw+UmpmfBl/vT1YqMuo0DbUVf26BnVXteM6aPK1tRoXNzecncaW8 XuEEDDzy8A4Dr4suZZKXCeOyEW1mzTW4Tgt5CMrnZdAstz8Wb2Fm726xSfnkEjXd FQiCj1kbImisE+8Bs0pTqCx0SSKb+PUQYn+btpcAUtjHitv608tjyPJiCp7WYGSb n78hg5iVUlBm11y14Tp5N6xf7rCJVfxZ+rz4fbX6vA== =GHX8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--