From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? 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[66.111.4.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x10sm7861209qkl.83.2018.01.29.11.20.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:20:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33C220DC5; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:19:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:19:59 -0500 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8A90F7E664; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:19:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:54:50 -0500") Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , Radon Rosborough , George Plymale II , emacs-devel X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222299 Archived-At: >>>>> "SM" == Stefan Monnier writes: SM> Hopefully John will chime in to correct me, but my vague understanding is SM> that his 10-20s were not due to package-initialize, but rather to "manual SM> installation" methods and configuration. It's not entirely due to package-initialize, but that accounted for about 5 seconds of it. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2