From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cairo now default? 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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::336 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244695 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:21:37 +0000, Colin Baxter = said: Colin> The configure warning: Colin> "This configuration uses the Cairo graphics library, Colin> but not the HarfBuzz font shaping library. We recommend the use Colin> of HarfBuzz when using Cairo, please install HarfBuzz development Colin> packages." Colin> occurs at the end of the list of configured options and then scr= olls up Colin> disappearing from the screen before the configure command ends. = It's Colin> easily missed and the user who doesn't have HarfBuzz ends up puz= zled, Colin> with a working emacs but one that looks unfamiliar and ugly. Not here it=CA=BCs not, it=CA=BCs the very last thing printed by configure,= just after the mailutils warning. Colin> If cairo has to be the default - and I don't understand why - is= this Colin> going to be emphasised in the INSTALL file of the subsequent dis= tribution? It=CA=BCs better than the alternative, which is libXft, which is unmaintained and causes crashes. Robert