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[217.227.100.88]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5b839716490sm558562a12.5.2024.08.01.21.23.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Aug 2024 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Ag Ibragimov's message of "Thu, 01 Aug 2024 17:18:55 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::132; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x132.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322277 Archived-At: Ag Ibragimov writes: > Also, I just realized - Emacs almost never (at least I don't remember > when that happened to me last time) crashes in Linux. On Mac, it does. > Can't say quite often, yet occasionally, that happens. It crashes or freezes for me about once a week, on average. Something like that. Sometimes more often, sometimes less. > I'm just curious; is that due to how Emacs runs on Macs, or for some > other reasons? I'd say it's unmaintained, old, and hard to understand code, especially in the Cocoa/Objective-C GUI part.