From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:47:34 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364838475 5087 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2013 17:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 01 19:48:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMiqF-00007W-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:48:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54701 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMipq-000433-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:47:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60423) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMipm-00042o-BP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:47:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMipj-0008EA-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:47:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169]:40459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMipj-0008CQ-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id p11so2168421lbi.14 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:47:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:subject:organization:references :mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=FpLLRgrPpywMWa9x0yNbBSdPvFzTw1tNV25qK6yIot0=; b=QBdXW/Nzrsw1klg8Hyxf1wPZxX4mpkoPljiwSC39RyDryMUErBmUM3+eSFU6MlNzJ3 ic90je2BFNdoRPOVuvwC++b20nwLoH9ol/3efyDiJj4ef1ZFg3u7sZnoFTzqPX2bqaHU Qag+dNAg5XCT1G8xoSUCP4lRUEzfxh80Fh+gwU3pXKi3sZ5kHKj3w1nDlMolxDByr2vA 0RBF++b8Z9Zi1TS7p6B+Dv7a+md4Rk5T/xwQcIzYSlvK75KQm6PK8c6Y0uOu63IfsF8v qx0/bKdCcsM6XL5eIOLzwIJp16qaopBnNC558Atn9UEKeeUsYhKq+MavIqIHQ1YsxpPv 6FPw== X-Received: by 10.152.46.131 with SMTP id v3mr6105547lam.57.1364838469488; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local ([88.128.80.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e9sm5831467lbz.1.2013.04.01.10.47.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C5839A26232; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:01:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.217.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158521 Archived-At: >>>>> Giorgos Keramidas writes: > Mercurial is used for Python itself (and quite a few other large projects), > so its longevity is not really a very difficult question. It will be here > for at least as long as Python, which Bazaar also uses. The reason (personally) why I do not want Mercurial to become the Emacs VCS is for the same reason I don't like bzr: Because it's not used by a *single* project whose VCS I track or contribute to. I don't know the UI, and have never had any reason to know the UI. I'm not even sure I have Mercurial installed! Meanwhile, the number of Git repositories on my machine today: 457. I think it's pretty clear that Git has emerged as the "winning" technology, in terms of mind-share, adoption, excitement, etc. I run into new Git projects constantly. Several prominent Haskell projects (such as bytestring) just switched from Darcs to Git in order to attract contributors. Whereas I encounter Mercurial and Bazaar, well, never. Darcs a few times, due to the Haskell community, but only ever there. John