From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Intermediate tutorial shipped with Emacs Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 01:10:20 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87a8sjcfr6.fsf@earth.catern.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444342332 10151 80.91.229.3 (8 Oct 2015 22:12:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Spencer Baugh Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 00:12:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJPr-0007bP-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 00:12:00 +0200 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOn-0001Ib-CZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:45946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOm-0001Dq-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37440 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOm-0002Si-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOP-0002ST-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOM-0000AC-Kk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:60031) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkJOM-00008h-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:26 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B01D20957 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 18:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:10:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=jCQTx lq6XtxbO6dpXofuh2dDnRs=; b=er+07yce2ZdP2Y518imXbsJ6C5HbZDcYiXQ1q SAC531ERy03vM6bYu+X42TVghjMLjlPOLL3K1Toid2lRxsoC/9vLMwE1EeJl875y HxH8TXXCXsaN1klBgBtKyj9pt+U9yh6kUy/Sh9ESlcIesHpseW1etzFaKmoKeM8B ktTpK4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=jCQTxlq6XtxbO6dpXofuh2dDnRs=; b=GxgHk SMv/WA+TZA3wFpIZAE7HDG8SU8bd8dO+XHfdLuAn75AdypRTQ0TflgOkG1VwleE6 +lQevgyEZDHtzLPg2mfAzD4xS6nCIdeoD+VRjgppqlUFtV6tSIMBh9UJ55DLWSwN vOQgYRO064dbmO0nvRSH6Knn9mTwF/gAKHr0Yw= X-Sasl-enc: u7/jCnMrWkWLGgPDIx/c6KKXEUTLzi/K8XMq9VlNwiUx 1444342222 Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (pppoe.178-66-151-11.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru [178.66.151.11]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 637F5680188; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 18:10:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87a8sjcfr6.fsf@earth.catern.com> (Spencer Baugh's message of "Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:19:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191072 Archived-At: On 18/09/2015 22:19 -0400, Spencer Baugh wrote: > I think it would be good if Emacs shipped with an intermediate tutorial, > covering topics beyond the basic tutorial. Reading the entire manual is > great, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a short/medium-length > overview of some of the cool features of Emacs? Kind of like > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/ but omitting the introductory > material covered by the tutorial, and more up to date. (That page > doesn't mention eshell, for example!) I remember that almost five years ago I finally ended the year of fruitless attempts to convert Emacs into an IDE like ones I used before and realized that I need to learn text editing. I had much work at the moment and did not have time to read the manual in-depth and this article [1] helped me to get into it. I find the text & the format nearly ideal to what I expect from a short "intermediate manual" - a bit of naming things and a bit of explaining. Other manuals from the same author were not as useful as this one, mainly because the topics are less wide than "editing and movement", but still sometimes I find something new in his texts. This leads to another (quite obvious) thought: more features should be documented in the manual. Even a quick mentioning will be enough to give a pointer. Filipp [1] https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/effective-editing-movement