From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:11:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m24kos2qhv.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a6yk72ec.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:40:27 +0300")
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:40:27 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
>> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
>> Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:28:43 +0200
>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 22:44:18 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
>> >> Obviously more features to go. I haven't worked out how to test the
>> >> existence of harfbuzz yet.
>>
Eli> (car (frame-parameter nil 'font-backend))
>>
>> There are vendor-provided versions of Emacs that mess with
>> font-backend and/or FontBackend, and the user may have changed it
>> themselves, so thatʼs not going to work.
Eli> I'm not sure I understand the "mess" part. Can you show an example of
Eli> what such "messing" produces in the simple recipe I suggested above?
OpenSuse [1] puts 'FontBackend: xft,x' in the global Xresources file
used by their emacs-27 package, even though the build itself is a
Cairo + HarfBuzz build, so produces 'x' for the snippets above (since
thereʼs no xft backend in such an emacs).
Eli> Also, I'm guessing those vendors don't touch the Windows builds, do
Eli> they?
True. For Windows your code is much more likely to work, but is still
subject to the user changing font-backend.
>> Perhaps we need a `harfbuzz-available-p` defun?
Eli> We could add that if there's a reason good enough. The advantage of
Eli> what I proposed is that it also detects the cases where HarfBuzz is
Eli> available, but for some reason not used.
Only from 'emacs -Q'
Robert
Footnotes:
[1] I believe they've now fixed this
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-24 12:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-18 2:05 Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted Jonathan Mitchell
2020-08-18 4:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 6:56 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-18 7:11 ` Jonathan Mitchell
2020-08-18 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 15:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-08-18 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 16:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-08-18 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-19 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-19 13:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-19 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-19 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-19 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 17:20 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-18 18:11 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-08-18 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-18 19:54 ` Daniel Brooks
2020-08-18 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-21 19:16 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-21 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-21 21:37 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-21 22:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-22 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 10:30 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-24 9:28 ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-24 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-24 12:11 ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2020-08-24 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-24 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-24 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-24 17:06 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-24 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-24 18:35 ` Stephen Leake
2020-08-24 18:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-24 17:01 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-21 20:15 ` Alan Third
2020-08-21 21:56 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 10:21 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 10:53 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 12:52 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 13:53 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 15:13 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 17:28 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-22 20:18 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-22 20:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-23 21:19 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-23 21:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-23 5:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 7:53 ` phillip.lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-10 23:00 Emacs 27.1 released Nicolas Petton
2020-08-12 12:01 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-15 17:49 ` Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted phillip.lord
2020-08-15 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-15 18:38 ` Stephen Leake
2020-08-15 19:57 ` Alan Third
2020-08-17 4:44 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2020-08-17 23:24 ` Tak Kunihiro
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