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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>, 65516@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65516: 30.0.50; Edebug behavior of signaling errors in &or
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:44:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m24jkjhgb3.fsf@Mini.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvedjo8rtf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:30:11 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> See bug#41988 for a case where we didn't want a failure in one
>>> "definition form" to be allowed to continue matching in a second branch
>>> of an `&or` (tho this was arguably because some of the code executed
>>> along the way had side-effects that can't be undone).
>>
>> Hurrah! :-)  Yes, that's it!  Thank you so much, that made my day!
>>
>> As a fix, I'd like to propose to remove 'gate' as a debug spec entirely.
>
> It's worth a try but:
>
> - We should come up with a better fix for bug#41988/bug#41853 first.
> - We need to check the impact on current users of that gate mechanism.
>
> For the second, `grep -C9 debug **/*.el | grep '\<gate\>'`
> finds only one direct user of `gate` inside Emacs or (Non)GNU ELPA,
> i.e. `cl-macs.el`
>
>     lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-macs.el:1224:;;   '(&or (loop-var . [&or nil loop-var]) [gate symbolp]))
>     lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-macs.el:2858:                                          (gate gv-place &optional form)])
>     lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-macs.el:2989:                  (gate ;; FIXME: Why?
>
> but there might be users elsewhere.  And more importantly it's used
> within
>
> - strings
> - `&define`
> - quoted symbols?
>
> The last one seems to be an old deprecated mechanism (a comment suggests
> it should be replaced by a string) that just has never been actively
> deprecated, so maybe we can disregard it.
> But the first two are used in a lot of places, so it might be more problematic.

I'd change all these, but I can understand if that's too radical for
your taste :-).





  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-28  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-25  6:28 bug#65516: 30.0.50; Edebug behavior of signaling errors in &or Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-26 12:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-26 20:39   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-27  6:26     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-27 15:30       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-28  5:44         ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2023-08-28 12:42           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-29  7:07             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-29 15:35               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-30  5:11                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-27 15:32       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-27 22:58         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-28  3:26           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-28  5:52             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-28  5:44           ` Gerd Möllmann

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