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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327131 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 16:49:30 +0100 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> >> Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> >> eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org >> >> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 15:57:32 +0100 >> >>=20 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>=20 >> >> > I guess I'm yearning for some commentary in igc.c, not unlike what = you >> >> > wrote in xdisp.c at the time, which would explain the basics, like >> >> > what are roots, what's the purpose of all those root_create_SOMETHI= NG >> >> > functions, what's the difference between exact and ambiguous roots, >> >> > etc. Because currently we are not too spoiled by comments in igc.c. >> >>=20 >> >> Would a reference to the MPS Guide >> >>=20 >> >> https://memory-pool-system.readthedocs.io/en/latest/guide/index.htm= l# >> >>=20 >> >> help? >> > >> > Not really. Their documentation is (a) too vague/abstract/circular >> > (i.e., stuff is not explained for itself, but instead they >> > cross-reference to some other stuff -- e.g., try to understand what is >> > a "root"), and (b) not specific to Emacs, so the relation between MPS >> > terminology and Emacs objects is missing. >>=20 >> Too bad. In that case, I guess I should consider to begin to think about >> planning to start to try write something up. That's a bit like pulling >> teeth, TBH. Don't know how long that will take. > > Thanks. No matter how long it will take, it will be shorter than > eternity. Did what I wrote in this thread help you understand/judge what I proposed better? Please ask further questions if you want.