From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Helmut Eller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: burden of maintainance Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:51:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <560CEA6A.9000907@online.de> <834miaa847.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443774394 13286 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2015 08:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:26:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 10:26:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhvfb-0000Bh-U2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:26:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhvfb-0006X6-Bh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 04:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhv8K-0005T9-0b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhv8G-00060V-PU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:51:59 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37109) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhv8G-000609-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhv8D-0008Sg-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:51:54 +0200 Original-Received: from dial-180234.pool.broadband44.net ([212.46.180.234]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:51:53 +0200 Original-Received: from eller.helmut by dial-180234.pool.broadband44.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:51:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-180234.pool.broadband44.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AkES/4Y/r5UmthFRLp7ZKUbmC4w= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190658 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 01 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Suggestions for how to improve our test suite without alienating > potential contributors are welcome. For a start, fix bug#16853. Second, make it easy to run the test suite in non-batch mode as it's impossible to test display related issues in batch mode alone. Perhaps use Screen or Xvfb to run the display code without physically displaying anything. Third, add a construct like HANDLER-BIND in Common Lisp that runs the condition handler without unwinding the stack. ERT rebinds `debugger' for this purpose but IMO it's very ugly and obviously interferes with the normal debugger. Helmut