From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ANN] New library stream.el in ELPA Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:55:20 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87d1whk75h.fsf@petton.fr> <87si5djubt.fsf@petton.fr> <87pp0hjlhj.fsf@petton.fr> <5623E527.2090509@dancol.org> <22052.29613.785079.277399@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445324234 9870 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2015 06:57:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 06:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 08:57:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoQr1-0005pi-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:57:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44172 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoQr0-0006Ep-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 02:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoQqw-0006E1-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 02:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoQqp-0006U7-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 02:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]:33343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoQqp-0006U2-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 02:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: by pabrc13 with SMTP id rc13so12192550pab.0 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:56:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=u1yyso/HQoXUEdZrR80qmrbHfiKc/2sTmtMjRqueCb4=; b=YHB3+9CSuXHp28gGkix3QguLbmDL/Yzk3k5AlrXeRltwXxyRC2lf5oDRiUeCppZvZg a26BjTuCRmGsMTMk6NuHZXR1elJxbLRixgSRbIUVButxZ+tT4Au/QTgRh6NsJun7Efrv zpI9w4Es6EJ8VqrBz5lOYBVAQ4EXqFjOCeRbf/aNP92tXOWMavx2kC3kMb6X+6UxEdoC zQRj88SCHER9NcsdTto7ohCD8q3EqVBx+28AQai/dSCWjvsFz1h4R3mlEyjamaGxxeGW ELYOcLV5zF/qxYsOoqyjTMpsHlkP6FxvLtYz0Q0sc7OHrx5TmGm5P2tQwYz2xt7Jjy5l gzxQ== X-Received: by 10.67.16.15 with SMTP id fs15mr2139767pad.82.1445324210364; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id yp5sm47161pac.38.2015.10.19.23.56.48 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A4B4BF577CF8; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:56:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22052.29613.785079.277399@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:38:05 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192152 Archived-At: >>>>> Stephen J Turnbull writes: > Daniel Colascione writes: >> I prefer keeping code in master. > N.B. I have no opinion on stream.el itself. My opinion is that these > stdlib/package repo issues need to be decided case by case, and that in > general a bias toward putting stuff in ELPA is not a bad thing. A bias > toward putting everything in core should be avoided in the current state of > the art. [...] Stephen summed up what I wanted to say quite nicely. Thank you! Although we have no hard and fast rule yet for what goes into core and ELPA, I expect moving things into core to offer a better reason than "because I want it there". Such a package should provide: - a basic functionality we expect to be commonly used, - supports a package already in core, - provides some justification for being in the default distribution and thus subject to maintenance by the core maintainers. If it can't answer those questions, it should be in ELPA. John