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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id yp5sm5446961pac.38.2015.11.10.10.52.44 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:52:45 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.attlocal.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1876C105242E8; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:52:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87lha5snji.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> (David Engster's message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:43:29 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: David Engster , Stephen Leake , aaronecay@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Stromeko@nexgo.de, Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193927 Archived-At: >>>>> David Engster writes: >> Elpa.git should be a submodule referenced from within Emacs.git (under "elpa"). >> This allows us to expressly state which "version" of Elpa is expected to work >> with the current Emacs.git. > Since ELPA comprises many packages, that simply cannot work. Perhaps I should say, "The version of Elpa.git, a subset of which will appear in the release tarball of this commit". >> Large packages like CEDET should move outside of Emacs.git and into >> Elpa.git. > Why? There will never be 100% agreement on whether they should be in ELPA, or be in Core, so I'm making the decision that they belong in ELPA. The big three that will be moved first are: Gnus, Org and CEDET. > From my experience, git submodules are never seamless to work with. Even still, they work perfectly fine for this purpose. John