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From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pcase defuns
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:09:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m235ibfjl7.fsf@andrews-mbp.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1nZmOs-0002uf-Vj@fencepost.gnu.org>

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 12:27 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> 
wrote: 

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>   > The way I look at it, it does do this, but it's just 
>   > structured  differently. The normal defun as one arglist. 
>   > Mine has one per  matching clause, which means that it can 
>   > take a variety of  different arguments, all matching. And 
>   > the arglist and the  matching clauses are the same thing, so 
>   > the arglist can be (n), or  ('foo n), or (1 2 (3 n)), etc. 
>   > Yes, it's weird, but I think the  differentiation here is 
>   > useful, see my next point. 
> 
> The argument list is not just a concept in users' minds.  The 
> command C-h f, which shows documentation for a function, 
> displays the function's argument list.  If you try C-h f cons 
> RET, you'll see what I mean. 
> 
> See also `func-arity'. 
> 
> So there is a practical reason for defining constructs to set up 
> the function's argument list. 
> 
>   > In particular, with your  proposal, we lose the ability to 
>   > have fairly different arg  patterns, with different numbers 
>   > of args, or different  destructuring patterns. 
> 
> Not necessarily.  You could specify `&rest args' for an arglist 
> that conveys no information.  But users find it useful to see in 
> a simple way what the arguments of the function should be.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I've implemented a new version along 
the lines you suggested.  So now things look like:

(defun-pattern fibonacci (n)
    "Compute the fibonacci sequence."
        (0 0)
        (1 1)
        (n
            (+ (fibonacci (- n 1))
                 (fibonacci (- n 2)))))

and

(defun-pattern repeatedp (&rest args)
    "Test for repeated pattern, returns nil, 'once, or 'twice, or 
'split."
    ((a a) 'once)
    ((a a a) 'twice)
    ((a b a) 'split))

With this, I think I've answered your objections.  Do you have an
opinion on what I should do with this?  I can check this in the emacs
source code, as a GNU elpa package, or just put it in an external repository.
>
>
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> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-17 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-19  4:53 pcase defuns Andrew Hyatt
2021-12-19  8:34 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-19 15:33   ` Andrew Hyatt
2021-12-19 17:16     ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-19 19:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20  5:56         ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-22 14:07   ` LdBeth
2021-12-19 17:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-19 21:08   ` Andrew Hyatt
2021-12-21  4:15     ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-21  5:20       ` Andrew Hyatt
2021-12-22  4:18         ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23  1:52           ` Andrew Hyatt
2021-12-24  4:13             ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-21 15:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-20  4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-23  2:30 ` Po Lu
2022-03-26 17:41 ` Andrew Hyatt
2022-03-27  9:31   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-27 18:17     ` Andrew Hyatt
2022-03-28  4:15   ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-30  1:28     ` Andrew Hyatt
2022-03-31  4:27       ` Richard Stallman
2022-04-17 22:09         ` Andrew Hyatt [this message]
2022-04-19  3:48           ` Richard Stallman

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