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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311374 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> AIAIU, the assumption that an .el file has changed doesn't hold. >> Instead, comp.el prints a constant list and produces a different $n=3D >> label in both cases. The diff of the .eln's shows that. If there are >> no further diffs in the .eln that weren't shown, everything else is >> identical. > > Once again: why is x-win.el being ELN-compiled in the first place? > Are you saying that every time you say "make", we compile all the > preloaded *.el files, even if they didn't change? That is definitely > not true. So the question IMO is: why is x-win.eln being regenerated? I think we are miscommunicating. I build nothing, Bj=C3=B6rn does. As I understand him, he builds 2 times _from scratch_, finds that the builds have diffs, which he showed, and asked what could be the cause, which I answered to.