From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Discussion with MPS people Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:03:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87o713wwsi.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ldw7fwet.fsf@protonmail.com> <87a5cnfj8t.fsf@protonmail.com> <86seqe4j4f.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3476"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Pip Cet , ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 23 15:04:52 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tPj3D-0000jq-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:04:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tPj2V-0002zr-1N; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tPj2S-0002zT-Tt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::630]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tPj2R-0003cT-0h; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a9f1c590ecdso789143266b.1; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:03:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1734962638; x=1735567438; darn=gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+s1OH8ZQIu5FCzOY5BgiDggi690zOL4jGb1L8s7Fi+0=; b=fZESoXfY3ace8XLyzdjtcvoAkxb5LhE98gUKyBG7WGnPyiM4DBROx9ShsSIOSK4pRo iMTK3ZtImW2D7mx66ES31FqIotxhts5sMyi2TJIF0Hqg58K5vHPLjlmJ11R5zygQ54vs J5zBiwXuz94lSMmCQ5PZLRBnL2c6o6Tl0bkaiCY90cmjs0iNcdBxSukheBF3liYCCF84 n4q8Mxv8oSaAC0BQglXbJSd/mmLCM9rHC5W2Tv2T5nm3wE27+fKkPYv/OijkTQUUkUlb nUPYSUs3Fpj3TfQTHxUablf4HYSehmUwmTR5gaQC2Mx7I7lrShDYKkguTLjuOHnR0Tgt suhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1734962638; x=1735567438; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=+s1OH8ZQIu5FCzOY5BgiDggi690zOL4jGb1L8s7Fi+0=; b=SNAWxhJgeweTVFsntfMqDDx5oJTQQbZ+hyI7wRuoNPDVpfYR1j+W/tXPWyoUcoQiPm G+MN1aq+Q9b3pz1PmckAkJsTnBvuBlIB+uNQ2174L4tbbiKy3EAHutCTZl35mmo5wXxU QC2A85jEjT9OsxEty71F5zn+E17mA4H1M56sibzFgHzWxwp8Vr44aKcDmQfoCRHSdJwP EVDM5RUxVbJbWtYCeVA6X365oLaKbPP5VBU5Obf1cf9zn+mdJntyPG/z29P0qxv/bvfM +GKgwvKvIoSwjemeWWVW9Y1v9am9vwVqpCwEGRsceOYpdlD7ROhgWlO1ytycRIwsHxcZ dyNQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV8x7gDxR/82Qsbo9nPWAGuCDf+PrrtprB0PgbSEQYYzepT8/tk3LtHs7DaUim9EKK3wnk1rq9Urg==@gnu.org, AJvYcCVAdDyhRvn09fZXxJXXGV5AECGR/9e8dN7NKTfyorpiGQMgGXFHoHyb8YCMVSCvYtCE81rN2HWEjb64OK8=@gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyf42o2uWV4V27cvVNsH6G98TICXvtgTFFYcjbOjJCKMsIuEMzf BRgT2/LDsyHQ4RD0RQ9AybEk8+wcnPY1eW/k8akCmqtKoQN0s8P8QGaNQw== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsu9I8w2Ptx1oASkIn1QlnrYZrIbyCbYpPligmjERQPU1lAlTozXc5bOpcIEM6 woAAASa0qKMtv5ICZ54IWrPwXPNvZF2FnBkTjoHS8BUS7P40SFbg/yNs2Hvrihinv4mTw8vZN45 +Mbea3GFMEsnGM2i3Rr/R0+5oF4F19J9aFA+KPNm8oD9HtnGkH0Pbcmg38Zhc0zmrTzAyJCNEMn 66nVNibnu4SfeKbLvuzOIYWGEbnJ6oTyV+MXxOI4I2T7B/6SGwr087LWa8ve4HNv80so6Jcm7r/ +ZU/ZzNOHyLW7IzpJTjhvuWSoMrnWAwW8+1GaSzFqSCEYWt7A/aM+EpvVwtLHpqb0A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEF5HEX6pzBho35ZBWXcRfL3eLq/jLcB7tjqRHQy7Qug4Pgnmt+1mHCMyqFB2ksYdTUNPxd6w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:9715:b0:aa6:8ce6:1928 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-aac334f7a7amr1287958566b.48.1734962637734; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:03:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from pro2 (p200300e0b728c00045f88d4d4db0c1e7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:e0:b728:c000:45f8:8d4d:4db0:c1e7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d80678c8cfsm4902887a12.39.2024.12.23.06.03.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:03:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86seqe4j4f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:35:44 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::630; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x630.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326908 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Why didn't we discuss this with MPS folks? That would be a good thing. Maybe we can get at least some initial contact going. I've CC'd Richard Brooksby, who is one of the main people behind MPS. (AFAIU; sorry Richard if I under-represent your role.) I've seen that he recently answered on the bug list, so maybe he's interested in helping us. @Richard: Eli is an Emacs co-maintainer, and this mail goes in CC to the emacs-devel mailing list. Pip Cet has taken over further development of the branch scratch/igc, which contains a GC for Emacs based on MPS. Helmut Eller is basically the third person doing importatnt work on scratch/igc in the past.