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From: Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:43:04 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m21wzpyrdz.fsf@Rothar.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.21285.1136317245.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> But you should still point out that you are searching for help on a
> non-GNU derivative of a GNU project that only runs on a proprietary
> system, and do this under conditions that preclude this work to be
> of use for the upstream project.  I don't think that a GNU help list
> is the right place for that.

Out of curiosity, what would be the right place for that?

Aquamacs is a benefit for Mac users, being native to the interface.
The "straight" GNU Emacs is lacking in many ways in terms of its
useability (from the perspective of Mac users, anyway).

I really don't understand your hostility towards either the Aquamacs
project, or to the developer, or to Mac OS X, or whatever bug is up
your britches.  Do you think that GNU Emacs should not be available to
anyone not running a free Linux or BSD OS?  That it should not run on
Mac OS or OS X, or on Windows or any other "proprietary" OS?  Were you
angry and hostile towards Andrew Choi for making the Carbon Emacs port
possible?  After all, that only runs on Mac OSes as well.

Fortunately for the rest of us, Stallman took a different view way
back in the day.  He decided it was OK to use proprietary software to
build free software.  Adding Aquamacs to the Emacsen available in the
world increases freedom, since it too is free.  The only way it will
cause a fork (as separate like XEmacs) is if the upstream people like
yourself become closed minded and hidebound.

After all, the existing Emacs icons are pretty damned dated and sorely
in need of a facelift.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-03 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-03 15:20 Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) David Reitter
2006-01-03 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 16:01   ` David Reitter
2006-01-03 16:58     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 19:58       ` David Reitter
     [not found]     ` <mailman.21285.1136317245.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 20:43       ` Tim McNamara [this message]
2006-01-03 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 21:35         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 12:40           ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 13:28             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 13:56               ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 15:09                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <mailman.21292.1136323111.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-04  0:10           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  0:31             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04  2:30               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  2:44                 ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-04 23:50                   ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05  0:39                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05  6:59                       ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05  7:23                         ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-05 13:15                           ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 13:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 11:08                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 12:40                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 14:16                                   ` David Reitter
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.120.1136557103.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 15:23                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:55                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 13:03                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 14:10                           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05 14:26                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 21:52                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 22:19                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 23:21                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 23:49                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06  0:00                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 11:07                                 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2006-01-06 11:36                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:26                                     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.26.1136502144.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:23                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 15:55                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-05 19:15                         ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.16.1136497693.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-05 23:23                           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06  0:17                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:01                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:22                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-07  4:41                                   ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-07  9:48                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  7:34                                       ` Joe Bush
2006-01-08 10:29                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10  6:01                                           ` Joe Bush
2006-01-10  7:03                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10 14:01                                               ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06  2:58                             ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.42.1136512036.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:32                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-07 10:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  6:05                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 21:09                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:42                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:55                                 ` Paul D. Smith
2006-01-06 22:02                                 ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06 22:27                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-01-07  1:43                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-07  2:03                                 ` Luis O. Silva
2006-01-07  0:56                                   ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.209.1136595503.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  1:13                                     ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.183.1136585095.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:00                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.208.1136595203.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:01                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found] <mailman.21240.1136295385.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 14:15 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-03 13:34 David Reitter

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