From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .emacs-settings.el Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:03:28 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <60282.128.165.123.18.1189002441.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87k5r350o5.fsf@jurta.org> <87veanixv5.fsf@cadilhac.name> <857in3bnav.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189166649 5796 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2007 12:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:04:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 14:04:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITcYz-0007xk-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITcYx-00026t-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITcYu-00026W-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITcYu-00026K-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITcYu-00026H-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITcYs-0008NR-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITcYn-0001Uh-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.14.57.89]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:03:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MDxZz0UKzq1XebzJs515wxhtE5E= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78141 Archived-At: On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:54:18 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: MB> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> Emacs doesn't do that AFAIK, so it would be at least a little >> surprising to current users. I personally think it would be a bad >> design decision. MB> It should be a user decision. Just as you might not like "hidden" MB> files, I do not like random crap cluttering my directory listings. We agree on both of those things. My issue was with the default that Emacs will offer users who have not customized things. MB> Thus Emacs should probably look for both ".foo.el" and "asdfasdf.el". MB> (we have to be much more careful with the non-hidden name though, MB> because it has a much higher chance of conflicting with the directory MB> content) That doesn't solve the issue I raised, which is that .foo.el will *surprise* a user who didn't put it there (or forgot it) when it overrides some setting. As I said previously, I'm OK with just using a dot-filename since it's the majority's opinion that it's a fine option. Ted