Diary

Diary

[Leo]

Hi there,

,----[ (info "(emacs)Diary") ]
|    The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
| `diary-file'; `~/diary' is the default.  A sample diary file is (note
| that the file format is essentially the same as that used by the
| external shell utility `calendar'):
`----

The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.

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Re: Diary

[Bastien]

Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:

> ,----[ (info "(emacs)Diary") ]
> |    The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
> | `diary-file'; `~/diary' is the default.  A sample diary file is (note
> | that the file format is essentially the same as that used by the
> | external shell utility `calendar'):
> `----
>
> The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.

I don't know what you call "modern" but I run debian here and I got both
the cal and calendar utilities.

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Re: Diary

[Sean Sieger]

   The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.

sean@6dfpj71:~$ which calendar
/usr/bin/calendar

or do I not get what you are saying?

Re: Diary

[Tassilo Horn]

Sean Sieger <sean.sieger@gmail.com> writes:

>    The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.
>
> sean@6dfpj71:~$ which calendar
> /usr/bin/calendar
>
> or do I not get what you are saying?

Not all modern distributions install the BSD calendar program by
default, so a sentence like "the file format is essentially the same as
that used by the external utility `calendar'" may mislead users.  But
since all the syntax is explained in the emacs manual, too, I don't see
a problem with that.

Maybe it would be a good idea to move that sentence after the example.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Index: doc/emacs/calendar.texi
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/doc/emacs/calendar.texi,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 calendar.texi
--- doc/emacs/calendar.texi	16 Sep 2007 02:29:50 -0000	1.3
+++ doc/emacs/calendar.texi	15 Oct 2007 18:04:47 -0000
@@ -990,8 +990,7 @@
 
   The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
 @code{diary-file}; @file{~/diary} is the default.  A sample diary file
-is (note that the file format is essentially the same as that used by
-the external shell utility @samp{calendar}):
+is:
 
 @example
 12/22/1988  Twentieth wedding anniversary!!
@@ -1011,6 +1010,10 @@
 This example uses extra spaces to align the event descriptions of most
 of the entries.  Such formatting is purely a matter of taste.
 
+  The file format is essentially the same as that used by the external
+shell utility @samp{calendar}.  If you've used that before, you'll feel
+right at home.
+
   Although you probably will start by creating a diary manually, Emacs
 provides a number of commands to let you view, add, and change diary
 entries.
Index: doc/emacs/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/doc/emacs/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 ChangeLog
--- doc/emacs/ChangeLog	15 Oct 2007 02:07:51 -0000	1.18
+++ doc/emacs/ChangeLog	15 Oct 2007 18:04:50 -0000
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
+2007-10-15  Tassilo Horn  <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
+
+	* calendar.texi (Diary): Move hint to external calendar program behind
+	the example.
+
 2007-10-13  Eric S. Raymond  <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
 
 	* files.texi: Capitalize node names according to convention.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If someone with write access thinks it's a good idea, feel free to
install the patch.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Diary

[Richard Stallman]

    +  The file format is essentially the same as that used by the external
    +shell utility @samp{calendar}.

I installed such a change.  I also got rid of the confusing concept
"external shell utility".

Re: Diary

[Leo]

On 2007-10-16 05:10 +0100, Richard Stallman wrote:
>     +  The file format is essentially the same as that used by the external
>     +shell utility @samp{calendar}.
>
> I installed such a change.  I also got rid of the confusing concept
> "external shell utility".

Thanks!

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Re: Diary

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   ,----[ (info "(emacs)Diary") ]
   |    The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
   | `diary-file'; `~/diary' is the default.  A sample diary file is (note
   | that the file format is essentially the same as that used by the
   | external shell utility `calendar'):
   `----

   The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.

calendar was introduced in System 7, which dates back to 1980, and is
quite standard on GNU systems.  What strange system are you using that
does not have calendar?

Re: Diary

[Leo]

On 2007-10-17 18:58 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>    ,----[ (info "(emacs)Diary") ]
>    |    The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
>    | `diary-file'; `~/diary' is the default.  A sample diary file is (note
>    | that the file format is essentially the same as that used by the
>    | external shell utility `calendar'):
>    `----
>
>    The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.
>
> calendar was introduced in System 7, which dates back to 1980, and is
> quite standard on GNU systems.  What strange system are you using that
> does not have calendar?

GNU/Linux

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Re: Diary

[Miles Bader]

Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
>>    The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.
>>
>> calendar was introduced in System 7, which dates back to 1980, and is
>> quite standard on GNU systems.  What strange system are you using that
>> does not have calendar?
>
> GNU/Linux

YMMV:

   $ uname -o
   GNU/Linux
   $ calendar
   Oct 18  St. Luke
   Oct 18  Boston Shoemakers form first US labor org., 1648
   Oct 18  Soviets announce their probe took photos of the Moon's far side, 1959
   Oct 18* Shmini Atzeret (8th Day of Gathering; 1 day after Sucot)
   Oct 18* Yizkor
   Oct 18  Chuck Berry is born in San Jose, California, 1926
   Oct 18  Aujourd'hui, c'est la St(e) Luc.
   Oct 18  Wartburgfest der Deutschen Burschenschaften, 1817
   Oct 18  Verabschiedung des Sozialistengesetzes durch den Reichstag, 1878
   Oct 19  Mao Tse-tung establishes the People's Republic of China, 1949
   Oct 19  Napoleon's beaten army begins the long retreat from Moscow, 1812
   Oct 19* Simchas Torah (Rejoicing of the Law)
   $ type calendar
   calendar is hashed (/usr/bin/calendar)
   $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/calendar
   bsdmainutils: /usr/bin/calendar

-miles
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Re: Diary

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   >    ,----[ (info "(emacs)Diary") ]
   >    |    The name of the diary file is specified by the variable
   >    | `diary-file'; `~/diary' is the default.  A sample diary file is (note
   >    | that the file format is essentially the same as that used by the
   >    | external shell utility `calendar'):
   >    `----
   >
   >    The shell utility `calendar' is not in modern GNU/Linux.
   >
   > calendar was introduced in System 7, which dates back to 1980, and is
   > quite standard on GNU systems.  What strange system are you using that
   > does not have calendar?

   GNU/Linux

That isn't very specific.  All GNU systems I know of--which includes
quite a bit--include `calender'.