From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7583: 23.2; ido loads tramp too eagerly Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:19:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878voll39p.fsf@gmx.de> <87d3dkgmwb.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319653231 31608 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2011 18:20:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7583@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 20:20:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ85Q-0004LY-IO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:20:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ85P-0005K4-SJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60383) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ85M-0005Ja-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ85K-0007Ap-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ85K-0007AL-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ870-000289-0w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7583 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7583-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7583.13196532658123 (code B ref 7583); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2011 18:21:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ865-00026x-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:21:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.216.179]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ861-00026T-Ri for 7583@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so2005107qyk.3 for <7583@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.66.136 with SMTP id n8mr7064805qci.57.1319653151972; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gx9sm3257386qab.12.2011.10.26.11.19.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id AD7E711F88EF; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:19:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87d3dkgmwb.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:47:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:22:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53164 Archived-At: on Wed Oct 26 2011, Michael Albinus wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > > Hi Dave, > >>>> emacs -Q >>>> `M-x ido-mode RET' >>>> `C-x C-f' >>> >>> Running this recipe with Emacs 24.0.90, I don't see a serious delay due >>> to Tramp. Do you still believe we need to fix something? >> >> Yeah, I do (no pun intended). See the other report I made today. >> Again, I'm not sure it's *technically* Tramp's fault, but I think Tramp >> should probably be more resilient to whatever ido is doing. > > I've just committed a patch for ido.el, which removes explicit loading > of Tramp. Autoloads shall be sufficient. > > This is all what could be done inside ido, IMHO. I've seen your other > report on the Tramp ML, and I'm working on this. Therefore, I believe we > can close *this* bug report. > > Do you agree? Sure; if there are problems I'll bring them up anew :-) -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com