From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The emacs_backtrace "feature" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcf7nwwh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348249272 24931 80.91.229.3 (21 Sep 2012 17:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 21 19:41:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TF7E2-0005To-16 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:41:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF7Dx-0005wB-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF7Dv-0005vO-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF7Du-0004nU-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:40758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TF7Ds-0004mi-9e; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:41:04 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XNhtQ0Yvwz4KK2Z; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:41:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: E/whiFMMXsBGMhPsthoMKbbZZpzAT0DFpvl1ZGAvIbg= Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-127-217.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.127.217]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XNhtP66Nfzbbkf; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5E7E2CA2A5; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:41:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: FIRST, I was in a TRUCK...THEN, I was in a DINER... In-Reply-To: <87vcf7nwwh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:49:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Received-From: 212.18.0.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153441 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > What bugs me a lot more is inability to get at variable values, > especially actual parameters. That has always been the case, but nowadays the compilers are much better at telling you about that fact. (What does it help if the debugger lies to you?) Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."