From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: POP3 password in plaintext? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:22:53 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <878ul1x4kw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ppecv3pj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412169814 16228 80.91.229.3 (1 Oct 2014 13:23:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:23:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 01 15:23:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJsM-0002tf-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:23:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55424 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJsM-0001yF-Cw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:23:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJsE-0001y5-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJs9-00019O-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:23:18 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJs8-00019A-U8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XZJs2-0002kj-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:23:06 +0200 Original-Received: from 198.0.146.153 ([198.0.146.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:23:06 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 198.0.146.153 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:23:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.0.146.153 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cUEq1Wq16cXIn/t4p7X73jH18FQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174905 Archived-At: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:00:56 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: SJT> It's not clear to me that there's a good way to do it. Perhaps having SJT> the `password-read' function (and any other functions that are used to SJT> read passwords) check for unencrypted connections and warn the user SJT> would work. I think you mean `open-network-stream'? On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:42:50 -0700 David Caldwell wrote: DC> Modern POP/IMAP clients tend to have a checkbox or a setting to require DC> SSL/TLS when connecting. If the protocol doesn't start TLS (and isn't DC> connected to an SSL port) then it is considered a connection error. This DC> setting is configured up-front, at the same time that the user DC> configures the server name and port. In this day and age it might make DC> sense to have such a checkbox default to "on". I agree for most protocols, now that almost all our platforms support GnuTLS. I think it would also help to have a certificate manager UI, especially for self-signed certificates. I'd like to work on it after the impending release. Ted