From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:06:59 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83oag3oosv.fsf@gnu.org> <6909324d6de8929192a27fc0be8267d4@mail.iq.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444753026 11223 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2015 16:17:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:17:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 18:17:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm2G9-0000sg-7L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm2G8-0002tP-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34555) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm2E4-0000Pi-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:14:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm2E2-0005AI-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:14:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]:34766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm2E1-0005A2-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: by padhy16 with SMTP id hy16so25440406pad.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dFk8QbYCDfgxVCMrEPBY8Lbf39RU1ghVvrmLwUpIpxA=; b=BdTOyV3aBlQ9w/lmfhYAGCy8bkDn1H/k4J2BCu0DBtqaVs6QoLFAnJlT8KWzHcHTmV aEvM69ILVMO+hgsANdrlyTsmStASB3SWOpbUKlFB5eSpVGDy+pRvK4K/KTjH1NmLrKdb +VFSCzCXxtQnQTLqgOY8ytJ2MaHEXvaQNRLtetmAX+EOTE00H9ecdrhGDVaEy5Q31fOj UgYRZcCd5kkopChBitIXUvsuNfJG/LaHr1irtb3WWG9LDyXaICaGQ+Z33/PtOrJ1xSWS XooNYDQEs/ZylLBSYtUzdUmSHYjgVor7w3N6+tTi67Tl1OEa8P1KzIFMAk2wskxU8hxq h9mA== X-Received: by 10.66.227.230 with SMTP id sd6mr41057227pac.60.1444752893080; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qd5sm4686506pbc.73.2015.10.13.09.14.51 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A988DF2DB012; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6909324d6de8929192a27fc0be8267d4@mail.iq.pl> (=?utf-8?Q?=22P?= =?utf-8?Q?rzemys=C5=82aw?= Wojnowski"'s message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:27:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191491 Archived-At: >>>>> Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski writes: > Look at Java based IDEs - Idea, Eclipse, Netbeans, etc. All of them have > been written in _slow_ Java (at least according to C standard) and run on > _slow_ JVM. But all of them are able to attract more users that Emacs, wh= ich > has core in blazing fast C. > The truth is that nobody cares about performance as long as it is _good > enough_. This is absolutely not true. Lagginess and lack of performance are the prim= ary reasons I avoid Eclipse and IntelliJ as much as possible -- even when their IDE features would otherwise make them a better choice for some projects. I will not consider regressing the pleasantly snappy feel of Emacs. John