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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id we9sm719188pab.3.2015.11.20.11.15.15 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8DE2910A5A020; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:15:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bnao5w4s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 20 Nov 2015 21:05:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, deng@randomsample.de, lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@suse.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194885 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > IOW, I think we can only switch to this model if we drastically reduce the > time interval between major releases, to something like a year or less, or > if we start maintaining 3 branches, not 2. Both alternatives require radical > changes in the process and the procedures, to say nothing about the > manpower. I'd like to cut new major releases once a year, even if they only introduce a few new features. That is, there should always be two active branches: the current release branch, and 'master' leading up to the next release branch. There could also be a third branch, the previous release (i.e., emacs-24 right now), if we really want to nail stability for people still on that version, but I expect involvement on such a branch to remain low. I'm not sure this requires a radical change in process and procedure. We keep doing what we're doing today, we just release with shorter NEWS entries. John