From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making better use of the "release blocking list" [was: bug#23288: 25.0.92; Clicking on links inserts primary X selection] Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83mvnxau5t.fsf@gnu.org> <83futobsw1.fsf@gnu.org> <837ff0b931.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3d68h55.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463157510 17987 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2016 16:38:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 18:38:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G6X-0000Z7-Vh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 18:38:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G6X-00025h-CJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5I-0000Pi-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:37:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5H-0006i2-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:37:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]:36309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1G5A-0006gu-VD; Fri, 13 May 2016 12:36:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id c189so45598544pfb.3; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=mM14FYXxrE+CXfuU8SmfabfWqk3tSTHlvhkXYW71zv0=; b=ULlU3UbxPYHl38YIWNDn2clbO5kc2GDWDRoF6AwBYh/0ymxT1DduXknxP5+vVahzx2 9kArBw2QEdIXCJa0UGKRl7ccMKd4QYnwoglInaiKyyeqm4JhBlJLH3AoHYomZUUj25E5 nLJdDjeFryzMXbgEDa1B7PajQoa5cFPPw2Qmn1jH+anrHsq05aO2SVGxjg2yOzTFsrqm PEcS0smD8YLdae7dQOhQps82nOPkcFs5wmoNlwig7rkqTteekId3WJDiYZOjqbTKkuM+ QfT2nOkJ8OMHE8x/oqyOOj5hbIjZpuCvAw+sqvSkVWumLt2p+MhUoTkLtBeFY/G4/W7a 6e5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=mM14FYXxrE+CXfuU8SmfabfWqk3tSTHlvhkXYW71zv0=; b=fMwFLL3xkyOdtudVaLW22rG771MnOTeZzwnnRFYrU3Se9th/yV0BU6vedPCwsmLLC4 rQiELVdNU9ol3VdkZs9XOaBzITW0bzLTIpxK9BO5t0pzwfkUQC+wrt++kO2sqVqJRFyi ZnMJsKwDgRalKjhFYsVZyBxbOgLOlLUZH5yyW+S97APqNfcGD7Ht8fsGcuhy6j8RrVD9 +GUbEyFzsldAaGCLyJ8DAHTpPmIB0RuU5/HHP8VE+N54x7I6eJx16GJGfCTdgWmQCqrz EboKYTn6XAW736nV3WBj5PUMksYKG4JXaTmkxKY8TTcwVsjP3EVDO7JAEaKd4v8uMxnM oFYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FX+LC7B3077JtXXHNovBb//jgCSlXvSqxyy5armSySeu3SSgBGS74dsElsohvpfRA== X-Received: by 10.98.74.142 with SMTP id c14mr21829063pfj.63.1463157416250; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a64sm28670649pfa.6.2016.05.13.09.36.51 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3E85F5077CA; Fri, 13 May 2016 09:36:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r3d68h55.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 May 2016 12:02:46 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203831 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I want to know what works best for those doing the actual release work. = Do >> you want a timeframe? Do you want a release-blocking list? > FWIW, I'd like to see more people working on the bugs deemed blocking the > release. For instance, some of the bugs identify the commit that caused i= t, > so the people who made those commits should hopefully step forward and wo= rk > on the issues. > Bottom line, there seems to be a certain dissonance between the announced > release date and how we invest our resources. It's confusing, at least fr= om > my POV. I couldn't agree more, Eli. We're all volunteers, so I understand people are free to work on whatever pleases them. But if those reading this are interested in the quality of our next Emacs release, please dedicate your next several weeks to reducing the blocking list to zero, even if that means just removing them from the list after reviewing them. Once we hit zero, and can stay at zero for at least several days, we will s= hip and shift to 25.2/26.1 quickly after (there are already a few fixes queued = up for 25.2, as I understand; and development for 26.1 is currently underway). =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJXNgKfAAoJEMFE2PTxn+Yw6tEL/0pLJqjFr+Vbte4Vg6gWZrtY 58IofpsqDyOX4IxVo4OWiYWNFSR0DUANbR2w5EscS8V+CIIgaIxXmPC6XNnM9WyL MP34udtLTV5T7MOr4Tk6td/hPjsQRZVJvT4juye3RXmi/44OtnmwieqgFda1P6gl 9C0LPCD7t29bwNYktc9vXqTDUEc5I6ekP+hLO5ZHtHRgxvaaRPoLHfO2QA7Kve73 ODkDMppBB3fOlp8OAkjwzSpyTY2AUFfnjWmMM7Agki1H9E4nqE/UgKDuQXkTmyKf 0qh7WC3bT3CySyW1VG6Fb980SXD1OFxv0pGybYjWr4Vu1X91QGZAtqhdVM9yWLdU e8I5rz3mKqy7vL6DgyIqHRzNlHMOouzffQvIugmNwr1GdvJT7bQiVpoCkyG5u2ER e+tVjeEsxuQjxFYrJmqR0eP+w+qGb083CjGjQzm2tnD6NGuNQZ2HzStn22I7BTVa FTZ+ltF/z5/pa+UW13KusyBxHzaaF8RL0jvR4SxKAA== =mK1a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--