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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255183 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:04:17 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: Caio Henrique , rekado@elephly.net, ghe@sdf.org, >> spacibba@aol.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:57:31 +0200 >> >> Why have we got separate 'open new file' and 'open existing file' >> buttons? Eli> Because most other applications have File->New and File->Open as Eli> separate items. Hm, OK. Then if the goal is to save space we could remove the 'Save' and 'Undo' text in the toolbar under Gnu/Linux (the toolbar on macOS has only icons). Robert