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From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Cc: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: not quite understanding input methods
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 16:03:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m21r67f7sx.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8USMAupM6zVJiuuOQbtnSfrScJwdxrnvogQ25Zxb5xRFA@mail.gmail.com> (Yuri Khan's message of "Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:43:37 +0700")

On 01/09/2021 14:43 +0700, Yuri Khan wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 14:25, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
>
>> > Blunt question: Are you trying to solve this to get a better
>> > understanding of the Emacs input subsystem (in which case please
>> > ignore this), or do you just want something done? Because, if you want
>> > Compose, it’s right there almost out-of-the-box in XKB.
>>
>> Emacs 28 has the input method "Compose" corresponding to XKB's Compose
>> in leim/quail/compose.el, but many useful key sequences in this
>> input method don't work because of the artificial limitation
>> to ASCII-only chars in read_char.
>
> My point (which some will find offensive) is that maybe one doesn’t
> need to implement input methods in Emacs.
>
> If you have Compose in Emacs, it works in Emacs. If you have Compose
> in XKB, it works across your whole desktop.

I try to use Emacs input wherever possible, because it's cross-platform.
I used Emacs first on Windows/Cygwin, now on macOS, always in tty.  Of
course there's also remote usage via ssh, I don't do that much, but know
that it's possible if I need.  That is, xkb is not an option for me.

I even disable normal layout switching key combo in macOS, so that I
doesn't press it accidentally while in Emacs, and switch layouts by
clicking in dock (not very convenient so it forces me to learn how to
depend on OS less).

Filipp



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-30 17:24 not quite understanding input methods Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 17:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-30 17:45   ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 18:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-30 18:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 18:34         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 18:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 18:43             ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 18:37       ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 19:00         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 19:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 19:13             ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 19:19               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-30 19:26                 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 19:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 20:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-30 19:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 20:29               ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-01  5:44 ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-01  7:23   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01  7:43     ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-01  8:37       ` tomas
2021-09-01  9:14       ` Joost Kremers
2021-09-01 13:17         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-09-01 12:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 12:35         ` João Távora
2021-09-01 13:19           ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-01 14:05             ` João Távora
2021-09-01 13:03         ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-01 13:02       ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-09-02 12:00       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-09-02 13:03       ` Filipp Gunbin [this message]
2021-09-01 12:58     ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-09-01 12:51   ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-09-01 13:29 ` Partially answering my own question (was Re: not quite understanding input methods) Perry E. Metzger

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