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[153.182.218.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 66sm17939152pfq.20.2017.08.27.02.43.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 27 Aug 2017 02:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Tak Kunihiro In-Reply-To: <83lgm660wv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:09:20 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217843 Archived-At: >> >> (2) Touchpad and Trackbar >> >> >> >> Using touchpad or trackbar on laptop computers, I think that defaults >> >> scroll too fast, especially by trackbar. Don't you think so? >> > >> > I will try that later. >> >> Did you have a chance to try that? > > Given the rest of the discussion, I didn't see any need to try that. > It's not like I'm blocking the change because of that (or anything > else I said). Pointing devices can be divided into two, that are one with coarse resolution and one with fine resolution. Several mice, touchpad, and trackbar belong to pointing devices with fine resolution. I understand that current default value is good for the coarse pointing devices. However, I thought scroll by the fine pointing device such for trackbar with current default value is too fast and unusable, but other may have different impression. I think Emacs should worry about existence of the fine pointing devices.