From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: deleting rcs keywords from emacs sources Date: 23 Mar 2004 10:04:54 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040323122810.7979.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> <20040323131316.GA29657@fencepost> <20040323142253.7985.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080055079 20009 80.91.224.253 (23 Mar 2004 15:17:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 16:17:52 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B5nf6-0002LR-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:17:52 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B5nf5-0002MA-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:17:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B5nYI-0006RX-Ro for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:10:50 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B5nYE-0006RK-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:10:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B5nXi-0006Nh-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.141] (helo=simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B5nTC-0005iM-Ng; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from empanada.local ([67.68.216.177]) by simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040323150454.YDQS4479.simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.local>; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: by empanada.local (Postfix, from userid 502) id 62D72140583; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20040323142253.7985.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20793 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20793 >> Keywords are just a generally stupid idea, so that's hardly an advantage > Well, no. Keywords are wrong, perhaps, the way they're implemented in Can we stop talking generically and get to the specific of CVS keywords in the Emacs repository? The reason why I want them gone is because they make handling branches (as well as uncommitted local changes, which are basically a kind of ultra-lightweight branch) more painful than needed, and that's particularly annoying when you want to make some of the updating automatic. > AFAICS, there is no official Windows port. The existence of home-brewed And can we stop talking Arch-vs-Subversion. There's already plenty of such threads elswhere. Emacs is not about to switch to one system or another. > I agree that it *is* interesting and useful; but I don't think I can > unconditionally agree that it is "better" than the centralized model of > CVS and Subversion and other tools. Decentralized seems to work for All the decentralized models I know of have the centralized model as a special case. You can definitely use Arch with a single centralized server (accessed via SFTP) and it works very much like Subversion or CVS in this respect. And I expect that if Emacs ever switches to something like Arch or Bitkeeper it will be setup in a centralized way anyway, so that part of the equation is simply out. Stefan