From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:38:36 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364366337 27007 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2013 06:38:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Welsh Duggan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 27 07:39:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKk0w-0002W1-Ux for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 07:39:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKk0Z-0000eE-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKk0U-0000aZ-WE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKk0U-0007gZ-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:38:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.160.50]:47897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKk0T-0007gQ-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:38:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id jt11so867642pbb.9 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:38:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Fm5CASvZjFb+mvJIC5gh+FJNEBwlJl5OKgqFCEBlJk0=; b=HIt9ztk39EJLoxx8sd4QDpZgp6zCQnrbacqHgjd5DtTtFpj0/BUqAtdwL6pgwg9ob1 zieKN3hOW7CQBzkqgqE+QbnTNXKiWV5ZVm2uyM/v0etUq103nfDMavjEQPaCC2AgGsu2 ycEStQrpUwji3U2+mkPwHFY/zSWbsoWxi9TqDmaNmQnBNi6V5ln7Lsj/pglj7ZBLV/Sr E1Pdxo8dQ4hssW2u525B5fEC3mA8BPREjtQzCOKZkec+8atseq2tQoQQo8PU/ozFX7QB +KubwTIYWotPIYnICADbdgWqQbSFKce2o5L3z/KMRW02sP9CjeYAI/c5lcJftIOk8gOt d9Tw== X-Received: by 10.66.228.167 with SMTP id sj7mr27910736pac.72.1364366324707; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Zeuss-MacBook.local ([111.161.47.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qh4sm15865759pac.8.2013.03.26.23.38.40 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAGFBMVEUKDAg1NjRWV1V9fnyg op/DxcLk5uP8/voi63ReAAAACXBIWXMAAAWJAAAFiQFtaJ36AAAAB3RJTUUH1goZAgAz00bgXgAA AeVJREFUKM9lk0Fz2jAQhQXJD3CCO70CmcC1YMtcWyTZ14Bl69xats4N9r6/3zWQBlodNKNPu/s0 b1cCQFuZGpfVVh3vAvBJolIXRkapSuoRUtIdFyo1Y5xSdlAj7OtvD1XnXxmWRi+eWgcxyCed1lVV B1CrKyujMoi+eLA5kU1SsjoHlW+nQjTtFxk4MXgrOxvIqzoTZR8XgPaLl419zgsMaSGFPiUOZCIh thsx5Xy9NsK8Kwf/JoQgMxcVJ301HKkcSWaT0O7FY056J4U9xcYfnmVXG4801lW6lqwu2nKFZoHC HuzvaTVndZ+LaRQgZdthXw1cpynEkLEwyFHXk/aIxNQ6QeooJuzPMB+wn+D7JJNsiCcVA13/A3h/ xE9J+WidpAwoYNmRFwyvSRhNVtsdaAewzZZP5uw82QL9+tyNfocyP0McAzICUr5Mk9RdIjWasUNx aIIt6NK4ZtXIMdfMQt3nuMAyWbLI4DqZ4xPq/ag8jPond4XU/cLuOgw6XCFX/YCUfcDAMMH58fD4 G9kDchwfqVefkBwup2uZM+Q4WhJt5jN3AxXCsaS2yXEDuWgS8VOzW0gFjhEPmLyFMKBFaLb1HRwc DiaKwx0EeTMRYnYPQRW3PP4HApvlMv0PttX5v/D6Aws3IOSEwzmLAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Wed, 27 Mar 2013 00:15:07 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.8.3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158268 Archived-At: On 2013-03-27 12:15 +0800, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > I see these Git versus Bazaar arguments pop up every now and then on > this forum. I must admit my experience with Git has been better than > that with Bazaar, but I have to ask, why isn't Mercurial being > considered? From a license perspective, Mercurial is GPLv2+, while Git > is GPLv2. I found Mercurial's command-line UI much easier to learn and > understand than Git, and I believe the two are fairly comparable in > power. The longevity of the project is very important. git being used for the kernel guarantees its healthy growth for decades to come by then a native version system will be built in emacs. Let's not muddy the water with another tool that is seemingly adequate. BZR was seemingly adequate and was regarded could do the job well. Now years later we are back to square one. I wish we could move directly to a tool that can serve us for a long time and have it stayed out of the way of hacking on emacs. Leo