From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs and Java Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:53:47 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87har0onhj.wl%f@mazzo.li> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347670448 20208 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2012 00:54:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:54:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 02:54:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCge9-0002tK-6u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:54:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56019 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCge4-0006ir-8L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCge0-0006ik-H8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCgdz-000575-OH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCgdz-000571-Hq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCgdz-0002n3-4c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:53:59 +0200 Original-Received: from 182.48.111.218 ([182.48.111.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:53:59 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 182.48.111.218 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:53:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 182.48.111.218 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (OS X 10.8.1) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KMXKEGpEQIO9KWr1C4ODblSzkvA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86783 Archived-At: On 2012-09-14 19:25 +0800, Francesco Mazzoli wrote: > As much as I dislike Java, I find myself having to write Java code from time to > time, and I'm sure that a lot of you are in the same situation. Writing java in emacs is only better than writing it in notepad. Probably why some veteran emacs hackers leave emacs for IDEs if they have to hack java day in and day out! You can customise the hell out of emacs and it will never even come close to any good java IDE. Emacs simply doesn't understand java or understand it in a retarded way (i.e. it can do some code completion with a speed nobody can tolerate). Sorry to say these things. Leo