From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New function: secure-random-bytes Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:26:10 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87liwrh7r2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4E04CA7B.2020101@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363602393 26163 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2013 10:26:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 18 11:26:57 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UHXHJ-0004a0-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:26:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36879 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHXGw-0001wB-SE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47247) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHXGr-0001vg-6N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:26:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHXGp-0003WN-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:26:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]:43212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UHXGp-0003W8-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so1263248dae.3 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=+1Rum7RwxGHzf6++RBFGCvUIAWcaIlnDj4iMUOCjmTk=; b=jayhvVC9hdGMVdjc9JlYtctNIU7V41FGsx40lo4JuwfwSVuVJZQc77nLyRFRM/T2d4 EPfUD/5fmfYzTk1vGoqMtLl/axgY0y5ikZN1JashufJO5uC0GxKo3+EDkMAkcFF4LnlH XGepmU/noKb36/zwT77Ed7cKkB1zdHhSt//qUFsnikNxj1voWGhFfdErNaeRPuFWpufF T2/VNY1hBB4IjJE6T6WpyN0+Dw8b5VqS06ir9YDS00CvWVU7hIcmKACXD/uY81oNooMd EpVzBBksoLwAGWrHOdRb9JcI3SIDQY6r9n1eC4Da9s+MWquqD6CtYr9Cmr6lH9SJYmMf fG0Q== X-Received: by 10.68.197.70 with SMTP id is6mr32546480pbc.79.1363602382438; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([182.48.109.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oq3sm7739042pac.16.2013.03.18.03.26.18 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <4E04CA7B.2020101@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:33:47 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.8.3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157925 Archived-At: Hi Paul, On 2011-06-25 01:33 +0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > I suggest using ISAAC-64, which is what coreutils' random-bytes > generators use by default. (Coreutils originally defaulted to > /dev/urandom, but users complained because that was too slow.) > On my list of things to do is to gnulib-ize the coreutils > ISAAC-64 and random-bytes generators, and I can do that if > there's interest. >From that discussion (almost two years ago) there was clearly interest in having a strongly random source. The solution you proposed looks excellent. Are there any progress on this matter? Thanks. Leo