From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why there is no char type? Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:24:48 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ipywqwx7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ei9k2zot.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ei9jr5kf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292409483 17551 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2010 10:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 11:37:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSokA-0000f0-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:37:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57698 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PSoXe-00048B-Ub for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53651 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PSoXU-000451-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:24:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSoXS-0001M7-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:24:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:62000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSoXS-0001Lt-NC; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:24:50 -0500 Original-Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so1306688wwb.30 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:24:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=zcXu21rk13BJ1wrJqgqDmcS07/JJAwbdwu5YesMAYhw=; b=ut9JxlEMOA90ZqDYjPrr6b61e3NEBy2Jic/TLgL84aa3yYO+QbAeaWLBuTIvtOeYf3 dNSLZ2d8oKvDeAAvJbTIsb0GKucOaUjybM/RFdZwgxuPnZhOdABHKB4VH8nk1gRXUyn4 wvhaxLI4nt1j7tc3dC5kbYg+47/73zf6IW68I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=KkYytG/0z7gMBfa27tu5WzhLZ6HLoeBWYVdRPv+pl/rnaTbMbRdB9njTo41Qqw7GGF p4dMuKfk4Z7n2XDxoj1IHuYJeyN8NGmf3KZA4ocMA32+jrw+cEjci+qMW2F1RUp+BfyV BUHhZFWE+jkyuXhLOpU3aNLJp/lDzpnSJXRfM= Original-Received: by 10.216.89.71 with SMTP id b49mr1609563wef.28.1292408689442; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:24:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Victoria.local (cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com [86.9.122.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm807552wen.1.2010.12.15.02.24.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:24:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ei9jr5kf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:03:12 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2.91 (Mac OS X 10.6.5) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133715 Archived-At: On 2010-12-15 05:03 +0000, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Both XEmacs and SXEmacs have such a type, and it far more frequently > leads to detection of bugs than it causes incompatibilities with code > written for Emacs. Big win for us IMO (vs. XEmacs not having a char > type; I'm not comparing the different 'macs *except* from the point of > view of having a char type, and that's not arguable. It is very convenient to have a native char type. I have tried to view a few variables, they show up nicely in XEmacs. This is a really good feature of XEmacs. But unfortunately, it would take years for XEmacs to sort out the license, then the lack of active development. By then GNU Emacs will be riding on the guile ship. Leo -- Oracle is the new evil