From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6675: 23.2; field, header and headers Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:29:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87tynuses5.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279657857 19020 80.91.229.12 (20 Jul 2010 20:30:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6675@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 20 22:30:54 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJSl-00038G-ML for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:30:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ObJSk-0002jH-EP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49502 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ObJSc-0002j5-Ez for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJSa-00050p-0i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJSZ-00050k-Va for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJQz-00055m-V2; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Leo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6675 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6675-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6675.127965773219566 (code B ref 6675); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6675) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2010 20:28:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJQq-00055X-E3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.132]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ObJQo-00055S-Dy for 6675@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:28:51 -0400 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Original-Received: from cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com ([86.9.122.85]:54031 helo=Victoria.local) by ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.158]:587) with esmtpsa (PLAIN:sl392) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) id 1ObJRC-0002hD-2J (Exim 4.72) (return-path ); Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:29:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tynuses5.fsf@gmail.com> =?UTF-8?Q?("=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec"'s?= message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:06:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (Mac OS X 10.6.4) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38701 Archived-At: On 2010-07-20 10:06 +0100, =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n N=C4=9Bmec wrote: > Just in case you didn't know and it might be of some help/reference: > > (info "(gnus)Headers") > (info "(gnus)Terminology") Anyway, having a closer look at mail/, I found it also has inconsistency. > My take on it is: consistency surely is nice, but I never felt this to > be a problem with Gnus (IOW, I see there is a lot of problems with > inconsistent identifier naming, not only in Gnus, but in Emacs in > general (as in any software of its size), but I don't see a problem > with headers/fields in particular); bigger concern for me is that some > not-necessarily-very-careful-and-well-thought-out change to the manual > or even function names as you seem to suggest would make things only > worse. Gnus seems to be in maintenance mode for years. So I don't suppose someone would take the trouble to think it out well. Leo