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From: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>
To: Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Consider adding hash-keys and hash-values
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:14:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1iow8g33w.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9Zgm1GvkQecEjcjKibYqWNkoZwFkQiWZ=EKVZ99QEmxW=q6A@mail.gmail.com> (Bozhidar Batsov's message of "Sun, 3 Nov 2013 09:28:04 +0200")

On 2013-11-03 15:28 +0800, Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
> I think this is the wrong kind of reasoning. The fact that something exists
> (or doesn't exist) doesn't mean necessary that it was carefully thought
> through. In the end of the day everyone makes design mistakes from time to
> time. I guess the original reasoning was to provide as minimalistic API as
> possible (or more likely - the API was modelled after Common Lisp, which
> doesn't feature those functions as well). APIs, however, should evolve and
> designers should always take account the way the API is actually used by
> its clients.
>
> Common Lisp doesn't have those functions, either, but they're included in
> the Alexandria library, that most Common Lisp projects use. The Common Lisp
> core is beyond extension for various unfortunate reasons, but Emacs is
> not...

You know I am not disagreeing with the principles. Yes sure, it should
but few are prepared to go through the same rigorous process as the
forerunner did.

Just saying...
Leo



  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-04  5:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-24 14:16 Consider adding hash-keys and hash-values Bozhidar Batsov
2013-10-30  9:36 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-10-30 11:06   ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-10-30 13:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-31 12:55     ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-10-31 13:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-02 15:27         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-03  2:38           ` Leo Liu
2013-11-03  7:28             ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-04  5:14               ` Leo Liu [this message]
2013-11-03 14:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-04 11:47             ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-02  3:05     ` Josh

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