From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eshel Yaron via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67702: 30.0.50; insert-register can no longer be used in minibuffer Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:07:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83jzpp19xg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmtpgooa.fsf@posteo.net> <83bkb117y2.fsf@gnu.org> <837clp167l.fsf@gnu.org> <831qbx13hr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eshel Yaron Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3616"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: thievol@posteo.net, kun.liu@gmail.com, 67702@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 08 10:08:57 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWqu-0000jt-RK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:08:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWqa-0008TE-5o; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWqT-0008SR-Fz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:08:30 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWpp-0006ZV-RU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:08:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWq2-0005XQ-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:08:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eshel Yaron Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67702 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67702-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67702.170202647221250 (code B ref 67702); Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67702) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2023 09:07:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWps-0005Wg-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:07:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:46462 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rBWpr-0005WY-0L for 67702@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:07:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1702026457; bh=Cldf3+I5j9ZYxqOGT2+IR6poPgykUQVoLWFAyJjBOOg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=SHOIOs+nRfo1GpQRR0pz4/sMZaiud4oEswgpbxnW2/5bfmUSuFn7U322LiD7FljQ+ FwNBqF3bukw/x6Wdb6vemR8Bfs/WhCSi+hZO6OzNIdX88fBcqgeCgV5DaaCTQMfb71 Vc8tNgloxgrTXlIGULlszMC+noIq3gFgiHbOjDj+twVopGeCkmLJBXBcw+kEah4HWC AD82nBt9HTwjAJSTJ41yEFWnNupALKLWlx0uRlOeYb+UC8NFufZyVSrG9kB6FZfQuJ 9bHZzRSXEJh7UoRvZPXhYAglt3YFdakqQ9n6e92c77aItBI4x25FwNgqC9oYnL2WqE 8gP4gmvdW3eDA== In-Reply-To: <831qbx13hr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:51:28 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:275743 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Eshel Yaron >> > Agreed. But again: please consider reworking your patch such that it >> > allows using the minibuffer as optional behavior. After all, using >> > the minibuffer has also advantages, not just disadvantages. >> >> I don't see these advantages. > > Well, Thierry does, so let's assume that some others will as well. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I hope it's clear I'm just trying to help avoid a regression in Emacs 30. Now, if Thierry would be kind enough to share those use cases, that might allow for a more productive discussion. > in general, assuming that others are definitely wrong is not always a > useful stance in such discussions. Of course, I don't assume that, I apologize if that was the impression that came across. Note that my very next sentence was: If someone would spell out these advantages, I could look into it when I have the time. > It is better to let each one to use the behavior they like, if that is > feasible, and agree to disagree about the rest. Yes, that'd be great. But currently on the master branch the previous behavior is nowhere to be found. What I (and others, I think) ask for is restoring the previous behavior, in full, at least optionally. If my patch isn't good enough, and there's another solution at hand, that's absolutely fine. Thanks, Eshel